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From: Jialiang Huang <huang-jl@deepseek.com>
To: xiang@kernel.org
Cc: baohua@kernel.org, damon@lists.linux.dev, david@kernel.org,
	huang-jl@deepseek.com, kunwu.chan@gmail.com,
	lance.yang@linux.dev, lianux.mm@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mst@redhat.com, ryncsn@gmail.com, sj@kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, xueyuan.chen21@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FYI] DAMON and virtio-balloon in DeepSeek's DSec paper
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 20:50:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260929125030.1411980-1-huang-jl@deepseek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aruyFPzEe3pS_Qzx@XiangdeMacBook-Pro.local>

>> Muchun's vmemmap work is also interesting to us. My understanding is
>> that it allocates private backing for struct page metadata on demand,
>> which could help reduce the upfront memory overhead for large images.
>
> Although I haven't had a chance and time to look into that, the main
> concern from me is that mmap() access will call
> "dax_fault_iter->vmemmap_materialize_page()", and malicious sandbox
> workloads (or not malicious, just valid mmap workloads) can cause guest
> memory OOMs due to "struct page balloon" for large rootfs in the worst
> cases and cause the follow-up mmap access failure, because the guest
> memory size may not even fulfill "struct page" for large rootfs.
>
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang

Agreed, if a workload actually accesses a sufficiently large range of the
image, allocating struct page metadata on demand could indeed exhaust
guest memory.

Best,
Jialiang Huang

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-29 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-25  5:44 [FYI] DAMON and virtio-balloon in DeepSeek's DSec paper Lance Yang
2026-09-25  5:57 ` Lian Wang
2026-09-25  6:46   ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-25  7:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-25  7:28   ` Lian Wang
2026-09-25  8:15   ` Lance Yang
2026-09-25 10:03     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-25 10:16     ` Gao Xiang
2026-09-25 10:27       ` Gao Xiang
2026-09-25 10:13 ` SJ Park
2026-09-29 12:32 ` Jialiang Huang
2026-09-29 12:41   ` Gao Xiang
2026-09-29 12:50     ` Jialiang Huang [this message]
2026-09-30  3:36     ` Muchun Song
2026-09-30  7:24       ` Gao Xiang
2026-09-30  9:37         ` Muchun Song
2026-09-30 10:33           ` Gao Xiang
2026-09-29 16:56   ` SJ Park
2026-09-30  3:07     ` Lian Wang
2026-09-30  8:08       ` SJ Park
2026-09-29 18:14   ` Pratyush Mallick

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