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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	wangyunjian <wangyunjian@huawei.com>,
	"Lilijun \(Jerry\)" <jerry.lilijun@huawei.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xudingke <xudingke@huawei.com>,
	"huangbin \(J\)" <brian.huangbin@huawei.com>,
	chenchanghu <chenchanghu@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 2/2] vhost_net: fix high cpu load when sendmsg fails
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:53:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a309efb-0ea5-c40e-5564-b8900601da97@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF=yD-KCs5x1oX-02aDM=5JyLP=BaA7_Jg7Wxt3=JmK8JBnyiA@mail.gmail.com>


On 2020/12/22 下午10:24, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:41 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2020/12/22 上午7:07, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:20 AM wangyunjian<wangyunjian@huawei.com>  wrote:
>>>> From: Yunjian Wang<wangyunjian@huawei.com>
>>>>
>>>> Currently we break the loop and wake up the vhost_worker when
>>>> sendmsg fails. When the worker wakes up again, we'll meet the
>>>> same error.
>>> The patch is based on the assumption that such error cases always
>>> return EAGAIN. Can it not also be ENOMEM, such as from tun_build_skb?
>>>
>>>> This will cause high CPU load. To fix this issue,
>>>> we can skip this description by ignoring the error. When we
>>>> exceeds sndbuf, the return value of sendmsg is -EAGAIN. In
>>>> the case we don't skip the description and don't drop packet.
>>> the -> that
>>>
>>> here and above: description -> descriptor
>>>
>>> Perhaps slightly revise to more explicitly state that
>>>
>>> 1. in the case of persistent failure (i.e., bad packet), the driver
>>> drops the packet
>>> 2. in the case of transient failure (e.g,. memory pressure) the driver
>>> schedules the worker to try again later
>>
>> If we want to go with this way, we need a better time to wakeup the
>> worker. Otherwise it just produces more stress on the cpu that is what
>> this patch tries to avoid.
> Perhaps I misunderstood the purpose of the patch: is it to drop
> everything, regardless of transient or persistent failure, until the
> ring runs out of descriptors?


My understanding is that the main motivation is to avoid high cpu 
utilization when sendmsg() fail due to guest reason (e.g bad packet).


>
> I can understand both a blocking and drop strategy during memory
> pressure. But partial drop strategy until exceeding ring capacity
> seems like a peculiar hybrid?


Yes. So I wonder if we want to be do better when we are in the memory 
pressure. E.g can we let socket wake up us instead of rescheduling the 
workers here? At least in this case we know some memory might be freed?

Thanks


>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-23  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1608065644.git.wangyunjian@huawei.com>
     [not found] ` <6b4c5fff8705dc4b5b6a25a45c50f36349350c73.1608065644.git.wangyunjian@huawei.com>
2020-12-16  9:23   ` [PATCH net v2 2/2] vhost_net: fix high cpu load when sendmsg fails Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17  3:19     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-21 23:07   ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-22  4:41     ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22 14:24       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-23  2:53         ` Jason Wang [this message]
     [not found]           ` <34EFBCA9F01B0748BEB6B629CE643AE60DB8E046@DGGEMM533-MBX.china.huawei.com>
2020-12-23 13:48             ` Willem de Bruijn
     [not found] ` <62db7d3d2af50f379ec28452921b3261af33db0b.1608065644.git.wangyunjian@huawei.com>
2020-12-16 14:17   ` [PATCH net v2 1/2] vhost_net: fix ubuf refcount incorrectly " Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-16 20:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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