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From: Sui Jingfeng <sui.jingfeng@linux.dev>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, mripard@kernel.org,
	airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
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	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Andy Yan <andyshrk@163.com>, Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 25/25] drm/xlnx: Compute dumb-buffer sizes with drm_mode_size_dumb()
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:34:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d4e4bda-f465-4c8a-97c4-846b2f3ecb54@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXxYa+Na3XxpLTy=-eUL_zQ9kAiUKYu-E04u3KWApusSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 2025/1/16 18:17, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 11:03 AM Tomi Valkeinen
> <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>> On 16/01/2025 10:09, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>>> Am 15.01.25 um 15:20 schrieb Tomi Valkeinen:
>>> [...]
>>>> My point is that we have the current UAPI, and we have userspace using
>>>> it, but we don't have clear rules what the ioctl does with specific
>>>> parameters, and we don't document how it has to be used.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the situation is bad, and all we can really say is that
>>>> CREATE_DUMB only works for use with simple RGB formats, and the
>>>> behavior for all other formats is platform specific. But I think even
>>>> that would be valuable in the UAPI docs.
>>> To be honest, I would not want to specify behavior for anything but the
>>> linear RGB formats. If anything, I'd take Daniel's reply mail for
>>> documentation as-is. Anyone stretching the UAPI beyond RGB is on their own.
>>>
>>>> Thinking about this, I wonder if this change is good for omapdrm or
>>>> xilinx (probably other platforms too that support non-simple non-RGB
>>>> formats via dumb buffers): without this patch, in both drivers, the
>>>> pitch calculations just take the bpp as bit-per-pixels, align it up,
>>>> and that's it.
>>>>
>>>> With this patch we end up using drm_driver_color_mode_format(), and
>>>> aligning buffers according to RGB formats figured out via heuristics.
>>>> It does happen to work, for the formats I tested, but it sounds like
>>>> something that might easily not work, as it's doing adjustments based
>>>> on wrong format.
>>>>
>>>> Should we have another version of drm_mode_size_dumb() which just
>>>> calculates using the bpp, without the drm_driver_color_mode_format()
>>>> path? Or does the drm_driver_color_mode_format() path provide some
>>>> value for the drivers that do not currently do anything similar?
>>> With the RGB-only rule, using drm_driver_color_mode_format() makes
>>> sense. It aligns dumb buffers and video=, provides error checking, and
>>> overall harmonizes code. The fallback is only required because of the
>>> existing odd cases that already bend the UAPI's rules.
>> I have to disagree here.
>>
>> On the platforms I have been using (omap, tidss, xilinx, rcar) the dumb
>> buffers are the only buffers you can get from the DRM driver. The dumb
>> buffers have been used to allocate linear and multiplanar YUV buffers
>> for a very long time on those platforms.
>>
>> I tried to look around, but I did not find any mentions that CREATE_DUMB
>> should only be used for RGB buffers. Is anyone outside the core
>> developers even aware of it?
>>
>> If we don't use dumb buffers there, where do we get the buffers? Maybe
>> from a v4l2 device or from a gpu device, but often you don't have those.
>> DMA_HEAP is there, of course.
> Why can't there be a variant that takes a proper fourcc format instead of
> an imprecise bpp value?

The 'flags' parameter of the 'struct drm_mode_create_dumb' doesn't gets
in used so far, I guess the situation will be much better if passing a
correct fourcc code from the user-space to kernel is allowed.


> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
>                          Geert
>
-- 
Best regards,
Sui


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-20  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-09 14:56 [PATCH v2 00/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Fix and improve buffer-size calculation Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Sanitize output on errors Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Provide helper to set pitch and size Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10  1:49   ` Andy Yan
2025-01-10 13:23     ` [PATCH " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-13  3:53       ` Andy Yan
2025-01-13  7:52         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/25] drm/gem-dma: Compute dumb-buffer sizes with drm_mode_size_dumb() Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/25] drm/gem-shmem: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/25] drm/gem-vram: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/25] drm/armada: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/25] drm/exynos: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/25] drm/gma500: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/25] drm/hibmc: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/25] drm/imx/ipuv3: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10  8:06   ` Philipp Zabel
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/25] drm/loongson: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15  3:50   ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/25] drm/mediatek: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/25] drm/msm: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-13  8:25   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 14/25] drm/nouveau: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 15/25] drm/omapdrm: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-14 14:04   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 16/25] drm/qxl: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 17/25] drm/renesas/rcar-du: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 18/25] drm/renesas/rz-du: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 19/25] drm/rockchip: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 22:59   ` Heiko Stübner
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 20/25] drm/tegra: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 21/25] drm/virtio: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-20 16:10   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 22/25] drm/vmwgfx: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10 18:18   ` Zack Rusin
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 23/25] drm/xe: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 16:05   ` Matthew Auld
2025-01-09 16:26     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 17:15       ` Matthew Auld
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 24/25] drm/xen: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 25/25] drm/xlnx: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 10:13   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 10:26     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 10:58       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 11:37         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 12:06           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 12:34             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 13:33               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 13:45                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 14:20                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 14:34                     ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-16  8:43                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-16  9:38                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-16 10:07                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 17:08                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-16  8:09                     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-16 10:03                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-16 10:17                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-01-16 10:26                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-16 10:35                           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-16 12:24                             ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-19 11:29                             ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 12:18                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 14:59                                 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 15:22                                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 16:26                                     ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 20:14                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-20  7:04                                         ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-20  3:34                           ` Sui Jingfeng [this message]
2025-01-20  7:49                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-20  8:51                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-20  8:57                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-20  7:54                         ` Thomas Zimmermann

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