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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] x86 paravirt_ops: create no_paravirt.h for native ops
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:23:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D6DC75.90203@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608070802.40614.ak@muc.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>> so it would be  
>> nice to use one of the other serializing instructions in this case.
>>     
>
> You would first need to find one that works in ring 3. On x86-64 it is 
> used in the gettimeoday vsyscall in ring 3 to synchronize the TSC and 
> afaik John was about to implement that for i386 too.
>   

Well, that's really usermode code, so I don't think we'd necessarily 
touch it at all.  It's not the same problem as the (single, at the 
moment) ring 0 use.

> BTW another issue that I haven't checked but we will need to make
> this also an alternative() for another case - it is faily important
> to patch it out on Intel systems with a synchronized TSC where it is
> fairly expensive. That is also not done yet on i386, but will be 
> likely once vsyscall gettimeofday is implemented.
>
> So basically you would need double patching. Ugly.
>   

Yeah.  I guess the cleanest way to do that is do the paravirt 
substitution, and then nop it out later if it isn't needed in the vsyscall.

> I would recommend to keep it out of para ops.

It's hardly a big deal either way.  There's only one in-kernel use of it.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-07  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-07  4:43 [PATCH 1/4] x86 paravirt_ops: create no_paravirt.h for native ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86 paravirt_ops: paravirt_desc.h for native descriptor ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:47   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86 paravirt_ops: implementation of paravirt_ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:48     ` [PATCH 4/4] x86 paravirt_ops: binary patching infrastructure Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:14       ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:38       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:56         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  5:39     ` [PATCH 3/4] x86 paravirt_ops: implementation of paravirt_ops Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  6:13       ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  6:20         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  7:27           ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:40   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86 paravirt_ops: paravirt_desc.h for native descriptor ops Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  7:50     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  8:53       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07 17:19         ` Dave Jones
2006-08-07  5:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86 paravirt_ops: create no_paravirt.h for native ops Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  5:30 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:43   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  6:02     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:23       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2006-08-07  6:03     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  6:16       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:04   ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  6:17     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:27       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-08-07  7:34         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07  8:40           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-08-07 17:54             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07 20:51     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-08  1:59       ` Andi Kleen

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