From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: proposed interface change for setting the ldt
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:12:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44E681B8.3020804@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44E679ED.6010300@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Zachary Amsden wrote:
>> This interface doesn't work for anything other than Xen.
>
> It works OK for native. It's a very simple rolling together of two
> operations which always happen together anyway.
>
>> It is impossible to implement it without specific knowledge of kernel
>> internals, since it doesn't provide the GDT selector for the LDT.
>
> Neither does the previous interface. load_ldt_desc needs to have the
> specific LDT entry hardcoded into it.
>
>> Now everything that looks like real hardware needs to move the
>> knowledge of the LDT structure into paravirt-ops,
>
> Do you mean the GDT structure?
Yes.
>
>> and it has no clear calling convention, so you've now got to reason
>> about SMP preemption correctness inside the paravirt-op, instead of
>> at the higher level where it should be done.
>
> The previous interface already required that preempt be disabled
> around those functions. In the previous interface, set_ldt_desc takes
> a cpu number, but it is required to equal the current cpu;
> load_ldt_desc always operates on the current CPU. It therefore
> requires that those two ops be paired with preempt disabled. The new
> interface is simpler, but still requires preempt disabled around it.
The paravirt-op just got a lot harder to implement, so there is a cost
to the simpler interface.
>
> In general, the set_ldt interface is cleaner for the base kernel, and
> much cleaner for Xen, while being trivial to implement for native
> hardware or something which looks like it.
I just think it's really weird to have LDT not described in the GDT, but
LDT is weird anyways.
Zach
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-19 3:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-18 10:42 proposed interface change for setting the ldt Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-18 12:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-18 13:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-18 20:23 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-19 2:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-19 3:12 ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2006-08-19 3:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-19 3:22 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-19 3:41 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-19 4:32 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-19 12:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-21 5:01 ` Zachary Amsden
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