From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:40:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FB38F7.5010306@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45FB283F.6080000@vmware.com>
Zachary Amsden wrote:
> I like this code very much; although it is unavoidably ugly, it is a
> nice general mechanism for doing code rewriting. Much more
> elaboration on this below.
>
Thanks.
> static inline void local_irq_restore(const unsigned long flags)
> {
> vmi_wrap_call(
> SetInterruptMask, "pushl %0; popfl",
> VMI_NO_OUTPUT,
> 1, VMI_IREG1 (flags),
> XCONC("cc", "memory"));
> }
>
> So the constraints are obvious and tied to the inline assembly. But
> Jeremy seems to have done even better with the vcall stuff. Prettier:
>
> + PVOP_VCALL0(setup_boot_clock);
Yeah, it doesn't try as hard as your example, so its all based around
the function call ABI. If you want to inline something, you need to do
that elsewhere, which I guess is OK because that's not the
common case (only very simple cases can be replaced by inlines, and only
a few of those are worth doing).
> We went through this design exercise, and thought it was pretty
> promising. Basically, you would reserve a set of "local" relocation
> types that should never be emitted by the toolchain. Then you can
> have complex relocations, such as "replace pushf; popf %0 with
> arbitrary code." You can even leave the arguments unfixed and grant
> the compiler register allocation, as long as you took care to encode
> the input / output registers somewhere (in a .reloc section of some
> sort, or encoded in the relocation type itself).
I'm pretty sure that's not what he means. The big objection to the
PVOP_* stuff is the fact that there are these massive macros full of
inline asm to wrap the calls, which have to be invoked in a fragile
type-unsafe way. Adding custom relocs would suffer the same problem,
since you'd need inline asm to deal with them, and I'm deathly
frightened of whatever binutils would do if you mean real relocs.
I think the suggestion is much simpler. If you convince gcc/binutils to
leave the .reloc section in vmlinux, and make that available to the
kernel itself, then you can scan all the kernel's relocs to find ones
which refer to paravirt_ops, and use those to determine which are
callsites that can be patched.
The main upside is that all the callsites are just normal C calls;
there's no special syntax or strange macros, and we get the full benefit
of typechecking, etc.
But I can see a few downsides compared the current scheme:
1. Identifying the callsites is a somewhat hackish process of looking
at a reloc and doing a bit of dissassembly to see what is using
the reloc, to identify calls and jumps
2. There's nothing explicit to tell us how much space there is to
patch into; we just have to assume sizeof(indirect call/jmp)
3. There's no information about the register environment at the
callsite, so we just have to adopt normal C ABI rules. For the
patch sites in hand-written asm, this could be tricky.
4. gcc could do strange things which prevent detection of patch
sites. For example, it might CSE the value of, say,
paravirt_ops.irq_enable, which would be a reasonable optimisation,
but prevent any of the resulting indirect calls from being
patched. In general it relies on gcc to generate identifiable
callsites, which is a bit unpredictable.
5. There's still a moderate amount of binutils hackery to get the
relocs into the right form, and there's plenty of scope for it to
screw up.
> [ Roswell technology deleted ]
J
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Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-01 23:24 [patch 00/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 01/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Fix typo in sync_constant_test_bit()s name Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 02/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: ignore vgacon if hardware not present Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 03/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: use paravirt_nop to consistently mark no-op operations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 19:49 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 20:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 21:59 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 22:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 22:18 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 04/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 05/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: paravirt_ops: hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 19:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-17 9:47 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 06/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: paravirt_ops: allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 07/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 08/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 09/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: remove HAVE_ARCH_MM_LIFETIME, define no-op architecture implementations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 10/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: rename struct paravirt_patch to paravirt_patch_site for clarity Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 11/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Use patch site IDs computed from offset in paravirt_ops structure Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 12/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Fix patch site clobbers to include return register Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 0:45 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-02 0:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 0:52 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-02 0:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 1:18 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-16 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 9:33 ` David Miller
2007-03-16 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 19:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 20:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-17 10:33 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-18 7:33 ` David Miller
2007-03-18 7:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 12:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 15:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 17:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 17:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 19:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 23:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 10:57 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-19 17:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 19:08 ` David Miller
2007-03-19 20:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 3:47 ` David Miller
2007-03-20 4:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 13:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 17:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 18:03 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 19:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 20:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 21:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-20 21:49 ` [Xen-devel] " Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21 6:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-20 16:12 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-20 1:23 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 1:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 2:47 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-19 18:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-19 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 19:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 0:01 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20 2:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 4:20 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20 5:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 11:33 ` Andreas Kleen
2007-03-20 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 15:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 16:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 22:09 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-21 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21 2:53 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-21 2:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21 3:43 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 22:43 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-20 23:08 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 23:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-21 1:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 23:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-21 0:20 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 19:54 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 20:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 22:41 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20 17:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-21 0:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-12 23:16 ` David Miller
2007-03-19 18:41 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-19 19:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 19:46 ` David Miller
2007-03-19 20:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 23:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-16 17:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 23:29 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-17 0:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-03-17 9:10 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-17 9:26 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 14/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: add common patching machinery Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17 9:15 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 15/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add apply_to_page_range() which applies a function to a pte range Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:47 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 16/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Allocate and free vmalloc areas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 17/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 21:26 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-16 21:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 22:20 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 18/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add XEN config options Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 19/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen interface header files Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 20/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Core Xen implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 12:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 16:33 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 16:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 16:57 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:12 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-19 18:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-19 18:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 18:15 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-17 9:13 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-18 7:03 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 21/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Use the hvc console infrastructure for Xen console Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 9:28 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
[not found] ` <C22013C9.B9E6%keir@xensource.com>
2007-03-16 9:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 10:31 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 10:31 ` Keir Fraser
[not found] ` <C2202295.BA49%keir@xensource.com>
2007-03-16 11:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-16 11:58 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 11:58 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 17:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 22/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add early printk support via hvc console Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 23/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen grant table support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 24/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:18 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:40 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:53 ` Greg KH
2007-03-16 16:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 25/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 26/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xen virtual network " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 0:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02 0:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 1:30 ` [RFC] Arp announce (for Xen) Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02 8:46 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-02 12:54 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-02 14:08 ` jamal
2007-03-02 18:08 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 4:35 ` David Miller
2007-03-06 18:51 ` [RFC] ARP notify option Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-06 19:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 19:07 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 21:18 ` Chris Friesen
2007-03-06 22:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-07 6:42 ` Pekka Savola
2007-03-07 17:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02 1:21 ` [patch 26/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xen virtual network device driver Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-02 1:26 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 8:42 ` [patch 00/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 9:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 18:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 19:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-02-27 8:13 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-27 8:13 ` [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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