From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
virtualization
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] KVM: paravirt time source
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:56:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46771BA0.2000308@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4677163F.2030308-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>> Okay. I may remove this patch from the patch series and attempt to
>>> sit down next week and work out something more complete that also
>>> implements stolen time accounting.
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's a separate problem. clocksource.read should always return
>> real time passed, so stolen time doesn't come into it.
>
> Right.
>
>>
>> paravirt_ops.sched_clock should take stolen time into account, but
>> that's almost completely orthogonal.
>>
>
> Except that I wanted to change the hypercall to allow querying of real
> time or "available" time as VMI puts it.
I see. You could have an interface like Xen's runstate interface, which
gives you a breakdown of how long each vcpu spends in each state
(running, runnable, paused or blocked). The sum of all of them gives
you real time, or you can use a subset to work out stolen time
(runnable+paused), busyness (blocked / (running+runnable+blocked)), etc.
> Right now, I'm relying on the PIT but it would be nice to eliminate
> that. I'd like to move to something PV so that I can make use of
> tickless guest kernels. I'm very open to suggestion and even more
> open to reusing other people's code :-)
A simple hypercall interface which says "raise irq X after N ns" is
probably the easiest way to go. Try to avoid the pitfalls of VMI's
interface in this area, which tries to recycle existing architectural
interrupt sources for hypervisor timers, and gets into a bit of mess.
Xen is relatively clean, but I'm not sure how it would fit into the
mostly-emulated kvm model. If you keep things simple, most of the Xen
clockevent code could be reused with little change.
J
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2007-06-18 2:56 [PATCH 0/5] KVM paravirt_ops implementation Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4675F462.1010708-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 2:58 ` [PATCH 1/5] KVM paravirt_ops core infrastructure Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4675F4C3.6050700-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 8:03 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46763C6B.9050004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:25 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <467679C5.6030201-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:28 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-26 8:04 ` Dor Laor
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2007-06-26 8:45 ` Jun Koi
[not found] ` <fdaac4d50706260145x1ebceadt432edd5b6a6ac1f2-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-26 11:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-26 11:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 2:58 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: Implement CR read caching for KVM paravirt_ops Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4675F4F1.5090207-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 8:05 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46763CD3.3060704-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46763E35.8020108-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 3:00 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: Add paravirt MMU write support Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4675F533.40809-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 8:20 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46764061.9080705-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46767B8C.9050001-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:38 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46767CD1.7030208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-19 21:57 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-19 22:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <4678567C.6040400-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-19 22:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 3:00 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: Add hypercall queue for paravirt_ops implementation Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4675F568.90608-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 4:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46760343.5070401-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 4:09 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-18 12:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 9:07 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-06-18 12:40 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46767F98.70109-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
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2007-06-18 13:19 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4676867E.1090208-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-18 13:25 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-06-18 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 13:35 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-06-18 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 15:08 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-06-18 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-18 16:00 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-06-18 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-18 3:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: paravirt time source Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-18 19:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-18 21:52 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 22:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-18 23:33 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 23:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
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2007-06-19 0:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-19 7:44 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-06-19 8:04 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-19 20:38 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-19 21:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46784A0E.3080502-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-19 21:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-21 7:04 ` Dong, Eddie
2007-06-18 3:19 ` [PATCH 0/5] KVM paravirt_ops implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-18 3:36 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 4:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-18 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-18 14:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-18 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-20 0:21 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-20 15:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-20 19:35 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 19:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-20 19:52 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-20 20:03 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 20:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-20 20:27 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-20 20:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-20 20:46 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 20:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-20 22:08 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-20 22:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-20 20:43 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 20:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-20 21:08 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 21:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-20 22:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-20 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-06-20 20:37 ` Zachary Amsden
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2007-06-20 21:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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2007-06-20 21:27 ` ron minnich
2007-06-20 21:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 23:49 ` Zachary Amsden
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