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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] New virtio bus driver
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:41:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46921EDF.7080602@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707091318.48261.arnd@arndb.de>

Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2007, Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>>> That is much harder to do, it would require a separate interrupt if you
>>> want to have a device independent mechanism. Most real buses (like PCI)
>>> don't have this, so I'm not sure it's good to do this at the virtio
>>> layer. You already listed the media change notification, which can
>>> be handled without this by either removing and adding the complete
>>> virtio device, or by using a channel for out-of-band data like scsi.
>>>       
>> At the very least, we need an interrupt for device hotplug.  That same
>> interrupt can be used to notify the guest about configuration changes
>> within a device ("rescan the virtbus and all who sail in her").
>>     
>
> There is an important difference between device reconfiguration and bus
> reconfiguration (device hotplug). If we want device reconfiguration, that
> needs to be implemented within the virtio layer, because the device
> drivers need to know about it. For hotplugging devices, we need to have
> a bus specific mechanism, while the device drivers only care about
> 'new device found' and 'device is gone' events that are already supported
> by any linux bus_type.
>   

Sure.  I'm only suggesting to share the interrupt.

> The problem with hotplugging devices on PCI is that there is not a good
> standard for this yet. The best option we have is probably PCI express
> hotplug, but I'm not sure how many legacy operating systems already support
> this.
>   

This is indeed a problem.  Perhaps we should have a virtqueue for 
reconfiguration (with a couple of read messages always queued for 
host-side changes, and a write message sent when the guest reconfigures).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-09 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06 12:42 [RFC 0/4] Using a generic bus_type for virtio arnd
2007-07-06 12:42 ` [RFC 1/4] New virtio bus driver arnd
2007-07-08  9:59   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 15:29     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-08 15:48       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 20:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-08 23:42           ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-09  6:49           ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 11:18             ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-09 11:41               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-07-09 11:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-09 12:09                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 14:24                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-09 14:56                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-09 16:33                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-10  1:53                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  7:56                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-10  1:17             ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-10  6:06               ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-06 12:42 ` [RFC 2/4] Convert virtio_net to new virtio bus arnd
2007-07-06 12:42 ` [RFC 3/4] Convert virtio_blk " arnd
2007-07-06 12:42 ` [RFC 4/4] Example virtio host implementation, using chardev arnd
2007-07-08  2:15 ` [RFC 0/4] Using a generic bus_type for virtio Rusty Russell
2007-07-08  9:45   ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-08 15:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-08  9:42 ` Avi Kivity

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