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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add I/O hypercalls for i386 paravirt
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:37:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46CBF5DD.6040300@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CBCC58.3010700@vmware.com>

Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Zachary Amsden wrote:
>>  
>>> In general, I/O in a virtual guest is subject to performance
>>> problems.  The I/O can not be completed physically, but must be
>>> virtualized.  This means trapping and decoding port I/O instructions
>>> from the guest OS.  Not only is the trap for a #GP heavyweight, both
>>> in the processor and the hypervisor (which usually has a complex #GP
>>> path), but this forces the hypervisor to decode the individual
>>> instruction which has faulted.  Worse, even with hardware assist such
>>> as VT, the exit reason alone is not sufficient to determine the true
>>> nature of the faulting instruction, requiring a complex and costly
>>> instruction decode and simulation.
>>>
>>> This patch provides hypercalls for the i386 port I/O instructions,
>>> which vastly helps guests which use native-style drivers.  For certain
>>> VMI workloads, this provides a performance boost of up to 30%.  We
>>> expect KVM and lguest to be able to achieve similar gains on I/O
>>> intensive workloads.
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>> Won't these workloads be better off using paravirtualized drivers? 
>> i.e., do the native drivers with paravirt I/O instructions get anywhere
>> near the performance of paravirt drivers?
>>   
>
> Yes, in general, this is true (better off with paravirt drivers).  
> However, we have "paravirt" drivers which run in both 
> fully-paravirtualized and fully traditionally virtualized 
> environments.  As a result, they use native port I/O operations to 
> interact with virtual hardware.

Suffering from terminology overdose here: "fully traditionally 
virtualized, fully-paravirtuallized, para-fullyvirtualized".

Since this is only for newer kernels, won't updating the driver to use a 
hypercall be more efficient?  Or is this for existing out-of-tree drivers?

>
> Since not all hypervisors have paravirtualized driver infrastructures 
> and guest O/S support yet, these hypercalls can be advantages to a 
> wide range of scenarios.  Using I/O hypercalls as such gives exactly 
> the same performance as paravirt drivers for us, by eliminating the 
> costly decode path, and the simplicity of using the same driver code 
> makes this a huge win in code complexity.

Ah, seems the answer to the last question is yes.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-22  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-22  5:23 [PATCH] Add I/O hypercalls for i386 paravirt Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  5:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22  5:40   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  8:37     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-08-22 16:16       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  6:25   ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-22 10:35     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22  9:51       ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 11:08         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 10:23           ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 11:23             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 12:09               ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 13:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 12:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 16:11             ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]     ` <1188237281.5972.69.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <46D3C60B.3050605@vmware.com>
2007-08-28 11:18         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-22  6:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-22  6:03   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-24 12:20     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-22 10:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 16:48   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 17:59     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 17:07       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 19:46         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 20:43           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 22:04             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 21:25               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-22 21:41                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-23  5:34                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-22 21:45               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 17:34       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-22 21:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-22 22:15   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2007-08-22 22:20     ` Chris Wright
2007-08-22 22:29       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2007-08-22 22:34         ` Chris Wright
2007-08-22 23:14         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-23  0:47           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-23  0:38             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-23  2:34               ` Andi Kleen

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