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From: Derek Murray <Derek.Murray@cl.cam.ac.uk>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.osdl.org" <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Next steps with pv_ops for Xen
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:40:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <475520A1.6080909@cl.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47546931.2090602@redhat.com>

Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> On this point I completely agree with you! If anyone has any less
>> radical suggestions, then I'd be delighted to refactor the gntdev code
>> to use them. However, I'm not currently aware of any alternative that
>> maintains robustness to process crashes.
> 
> Oh, for me it isn't robust at all, it crashes on the first munmap
> syscall.  It is the Fedora 8 kernel.  See attachment.  Didn't try
> xensource 2.6.18 yet.

My gut feeling is that something changed in mm between 2.6.18 and 
2.6.21, but that seems like a cop out so...

> Ideas what is wrong?

Since the bug appears to be in page_remove_rmap, that would tend to 
imply that there is never a corresponding page_add_*_rmap 
(page_add_file_rmap?). My knowledge of the Linux mm code is a bit shaky 
here: should gntdev be doing this? Should we be using install_page (or a 
modified version thereof) to set the PTE?

Also, does a simple program that opens gntdev, maps a grant, 
accesses/writes to the page, and unmaps it (all using the xc_gnttab_* 
functions) work?

> Who uses the gntdev device right now?

Good question! I'm aware of it being used in a few research projects, 
and it seems to work for them (though I think it is mostly used with the 
linux-2.6.18-xen kernel). Anyone else?

>> I think this would represent good progress, though I wonder if there
>> would be a performance penalty due to performing the mapping and
>> unmapping in user-space (multiple syscalls per mapping versus a single
>> hypercall).
> 
> I'd expect the hard disk (and how I/O is scheduled) being the
> bottleneck, not the syscall overhead.  Nevertheless I plan to benchmark
> it once I have it up and running.

Great to hear that you're working on this! Let me know if there's any 
other help I can provide with gntdev.

Cheers,

Derek.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-21 22:05 Next steps with pv_ops for Xen Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-11-21 23:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-26 14:02   ` Juan Quintela
2007-11-26 18:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-27  8:30       ` Jan Beulich
2007-11-27 17:00         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-27 17:14           ` Jan Beulich
2007-11-27 17:15           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-12-03 12:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-03 13:19   ` Derek Murray
2007-12-03 14:16     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-03 14:51       ` Derek Murray
2007-12-03 17:18         ` Mark Williamson
2007-12-03 18:36           ` D.G. Murray
2007-12-03 19:08             ` Mark Williamson
2007-12-04  9:35               ` tgh
2007-12-05  3:42                 ` Mark Williamson
2007-12-06 15:21             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-06 15:32               ` Derek Murray
2007-12-06 15:55                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-21 12:58             ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-03 20:38         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-04  9:40           ` Derek Murray [this message]
2007-12-04 12:01             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-04 12:39               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-12-04 19:58                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 11:48                   ` [Xen-devel] " Derek Murray
2007-12-05 13:19                   ` Derek Murray
     [not found]                   ` <47569014.8080008@cl.cam.ac.uk>
2007-12-05 14:12                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 14:22                       ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-05 14:30                         ` Derek Murray
2007-12-05 16:58                           ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-05 17:17                             ` Derek Murray
2007-12-05 17:22                               ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-05 17:48                                 ` Derek Murray
2007-12-05 17:59                                   ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-05 18:15                                     ` Derek Murray
2007-12-12  8:27                                       ` Isaku Yamahata
2007-12-12  8:39                                         ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-12  8:44                                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2007-12-05 20:06                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 18:12                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-12-05 18:29                       ` Derek Murray
2007-12-05 20:15                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-12-05 20:35                           ` Geoffrey Lefebvre
2007-12-06 10:15                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 20:44                           ` Keir Fraser
2007-12-06 10:00                             ` Derek Murray
2007-12-06 19:55                               ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-12-05 10:03                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 12:51                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-12-05 10:11                 ` Derek Murray

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