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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hugh@veritas.com, Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 7.
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:14:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D51CA9.6090601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D518E9.1090001@goop.org>

Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> The more complex host policy decisions of how to balance overall 
> memory use system-wide are much in the same for both mechanisms.
Not at all.  Page hinting is just an optimization to host swapping, where
IO can be avoided on many of the pages that hit the end of the LRU.

No decisions have to be made at all about balancing memory use
between guests, it just happens through regular host LRU aging.

Automatic ballooning requires that something on the host figures
out how much memory each guest needs and sizes the guests
appropriately.  All the proposed policies for that which I have
seen have some nasty corner cases or are simply very limited
in scope.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-27 15:09 [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 7 Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 1/6] Guest page hinting: core + volatile page cache Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-27 22:57   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-29 13:56     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-29 14:35       ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 2/6] Guest page hinting: volatile swap cache Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01  2:10   ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01  8:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 3/6] Guest page hinting: mlocked pages Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01  2:52   ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01  8:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 4/6] Guest page hinting: writable page table entries Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01 13:25   ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-01 14:36     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01 14:45       ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 5/6] Guest page hinting: minor fault optimization Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01 15:33   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01 16:18   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-27 23:03 ` [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 7 Dave Hansen
2009-03-28  0:06   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-29 14:20     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-29 14:38       ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-29 14:12   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-30 15:54     ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-30 16:34       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-30 18:37       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-30 18:42         ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-30 18:59           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-30 20:02             ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-30 20:35               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-30 21:38                 ` Dor Laor
2009-03-30 22:16                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-28  6:35 ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-29 14:23   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-02 11:32     ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 15:52       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-02 16:18         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 16:23         ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 19:06         ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-02 19:22           ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 20:05             ` Rik van Riel
2009-04-03  0:50               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 19:58           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 20:14             ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2009-04-02 20:34               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-03  8:49                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-03 18:19                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-06  7:21                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-06  7:32                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-06 19:23                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 19:27         ` Hugh Dickins

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