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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/20] x86: ticket lock rewrite and paravirtualization
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:20:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CDDBDB5.8000800@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CDDBCE4.80906@goop.org>

On 11/12/2010 02:17 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> On 11/12/2010 02:12 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 11/03/2010 07:59 AM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>       - with an unmodified struct spinlock, it can check to see if
>>>         head == tail after unlock; if not, then there's someone else
>>>         trying to lock, and we can do a kick.  Unfortunately this
>>>         generates very high level of redundant kicks, because the
>>>         waiting CPU might not have blocked yet (which is the common
>>>         case)
>>>
>> How high is "very high" here -- most of the time (so that any mitigation
>> on the slow patch is useless)?
> 
> I'll need to remeasure, but I think around 90% of the slowpath entries
> were spurious without this.  In other words, when spinlocks do contend,
> most of the time it isn't very serious and the other cpu doesn't spend
> much time spinning.
> 

90% of the slowpath entries is one thing, my real question is the
fraction of fastpath entries that get diverted to the slowpath.  It
affects where mitigation needs to happen.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-12 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/20] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/20] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/20] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/20] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/20] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/20] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/20] x86/spinlocks: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/20] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/20] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/20] x86/pvticketlock: keep count of blocked cpus Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/20] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/20] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for unlock_kick as well Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/20] x86/pvticketlock: make sure unlock is seen by everyone before checking waiters Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/20] x86/ticketlock: loosen ordering restraints on unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/20] x86/ticketlock: prevent compiler reordering into locked region Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/20] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/20] x86/ticketlock: clarify barrier in arch_spin_lock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/20] x86/ticketlock: remove .slock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 15:00 ` [PATCH 19/20] x86/ticketlocks: use overlapping read to eliminate mb() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 15:00 ` [PATCH 20/20] x86/ticketlock: rename ticketpair to head_tail Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found] ` <3d9083892c28a7d3ed5a0191b0b4cd013022a186.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-03 15:11   ` [PATCH 02/20] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Eric Dumazet
     [not found]   ` <1288797092.2511.141.camel@edumazet-laptop>
2010-11-03 15:38     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found] ` <5b3cbff3a6e96a085651f140a0525be80a4df8ba.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-12 12:19   ` [PATCH 04/20] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Srivatsa Vaddagiri
     [not found]   ` <20101112121932.GA30016@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-11-12 16:27     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-12 22:12 ` [PATCH 00/20] x86: ticket lock rewrite and paravirtualization H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-12 22:17   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]   ` <4CDDBCE4.80906@goop.org>
2010-11-12 22:20     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-11-15 20:00       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]       ` <4CE1915F.60507@goop.org>
2010-11-15 20:03         ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <4CE1920F.5000509@zytor.com>
2010-11-15 20:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <1289852088.2109.553.camel@laptop>
2010-11-15 21:02             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]             ` <4CE19FD1.2000804@goop.org>
2010-11-15 21:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <742be99eb6d64784dbc3e446d22df78b7a55fc0c.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-13  9:57   ` [PATCH 01/20] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Américo Wang
     [not found]   ` <20101113095732.GF3837@hack>
2010-11-15 19:36     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found] ` <20092775a9df07a5a75820ac250194b535279d51.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-03 15:13   ` [PATCH 03/20] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Eric Dumazet
     [not found]   ` <1288797218.2511.143.camel@edumazet-laptop>
2010-11-03 18:00     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-13 10:05   ` Américo Wang
     [not found]   ` <20101113100527.GG3837@hack>
2010-11-13 22:34     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-15 19:38     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found] ` <4cea7b0804de5a2c1249034fc5c4840ade043ff4.1288794124.git.jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
2010-11-13 10:17   ` [PATCH 06/20] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Américo Wang
     [not found]   ` <20101113101732.GH3837@hack>
2010-11-13 10:48     ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]     ` <1289645321.2743.21.camel@edumazet-laptop>
2010-11-15 19:39       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-03 14:59 [PATCH 00/20] x86: ticket lock rewrite and paravirtualization Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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