From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
lf-virt <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
target-devel <target-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@cn.ibm.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] tcm_vhost/virtio-scsi WIP code for-3.6
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:39:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF67A1F.5080507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1341545893.23954.325.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>
Il 06/07/2012 05:38, Nicholas A. Bellinger ha scritto:
> So I imagine that setting inquiry/vpd/mode via configfs attribs to match
> whatever the guest wants to see (or expects to see) can be enabled
> via /sys/kernel/config/target/core/$HBA/$DEV/[wwn,attrib]/ easily to
> whatever is required.
>
> However, beyond basic SCSI WWN related bits, I would avoid trying to
> match complex SCSI target state between the in-kernel patch and QEMU
> SCSI.
Agreed. It should just be the bare minimum to make stable /dev/disk
paths, well, stable between the two backends.
>>> so that it is not possible to migrate one to the other.
>>
>> Migration between different backend types does not seem all that useful.
>> The general rule is you need identical flags on both sides to allow
>> migration, and it is not clear how valuable it is to relax this
>> somewhat.
>
> I really need to learn more about how QEMU Live migration works wrt to
> storage before saying how this may (or may not) work.
vhost-scsi live migration should be easy to fix. You need some ioctl or
eventfd mechanism to communicate to userspace that there is no pending
I/O, but you need that anyway also for other operations (as simple as
stopping the VM: QEMU guarantees that the "stop" monitor command returns
only when there is no outstanding I/O).
What worries me most is: 1) the amount of functionality that is lost
with vhost-scsi, especially the new live operations that we're adding to
QEMU; 2) whether any hook we introduce in the QEMU block layer will
cause problems down the road when we set to fix the existing
virtio-blk/virtio-scsi-qemu performance problems. This is the reason
why I'm reluctant to merge the QEMU bits. The kernel bits are
self-contained and are much less problematic.
It may well be that _the same_ (or very similar) hooks will be needed by
both tcm_vhost and high-performance userspace virtio backends. This
would of course remove the objection.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-06 5:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1341375846-27882-1-git-send-email-nab@linux-iscsi.org>
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 1/6] vhost: Separate vhost-net features from vhost features Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 4:41 ` Asias He
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 2/6] vhost: make vhost work queue visible Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 3/6] vhost: Add vhost_scsi specific defines Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 4/6] tcm_vhost: Initial merge for vhost level target fabric driver Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 5/6] virtio-scsi: Add vdrv->scan for post VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_DRIVER_OK LUN scanning Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 4:24 ` [PATCH 6/6] virtio-scsi: Set shost->max_id=1 for tcm_vhost WWPNs Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-04 14:02 ` [PATCH 0/6] tcm_vhost/virtio-scsi WIP code for-3.6 Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-04 14:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-04 15:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-04 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-05 1:52 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-05 10:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-05 13:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-05 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-05 14:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-05 21:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4FF59F6B.2000101@us.ibm.com>
2012-07-05 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-05 14:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-05 17:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-06 3:01 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
[not found] ` <1341543672.23954.285.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>
[not found] ` <1341553397.3023.16.camel@dabdike.hilton.com>
2012-07-06 9:13 ` SCSI Performance regression [was Re: [PATCH 0/6] tcm_vhost/virtio-scsi WIP code for-3.6] Nicholas A. Bellinger
[not found] ` <1341582550.2941.10.camel@dabdike>
2012-07-06 18:21 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-06 20:30 ` [Ksummit-2012-discuss] " Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1207061528520.2656@router.home>
2012-07-06 22:06 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-06 3:38 ` [PATCH 0/6] tcm_vhost/virtio-scsi WIP code for-3.6 Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-06 5:39 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-07-05 17:53 ` Bart Van Assche
[not found] ` <4FF5D494.2090707@acm.org>
2012-07-05 19:57 ` Bart Van Assche
2012-07-10 0:29 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-05 2:01 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
[not found] ` <1341453665.23954.224.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>
2012-07-05 9:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-06 3:13 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
[not found] ` <1341375846-27882-6-git-send-email-nab@linux-iscsi.org>
2012-07-04 14:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] virtio-scsi: Add vdrv->scan for post VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_DRIVER_OK LUN scanning Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <1341375846-27882-7-git-send-email-nab@linux-iscsi.org>
2012-07-04 14:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] virtio-scsi: Set shost->max_id=1 for tcm_vhost WWPNs Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-05 2:05 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-07-05 6:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <1341375846-27882-5-git-send-email-nab@linux-iscsi.org>
2012-07-05 17:47 ` [PATCH 4/6] tcm_vhost: Initial merge for vhost level target fabric driver Bart Van Assche
[not found] ` <4FF5D31F.90404@acm.org>
2012-07-05 17:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2012-07-04 4:24 [PATCH 0/6] tcm_vhost/virtio-scsi WIP code for-3.6 Nicholas A. Bellinger
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