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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: wency@cn.fujitsu.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, penberg@kernel.org,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:26:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500E5C36.2070601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9yprc4v.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On 07/24/2012 07:55 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:32:39 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As it was discussed recently, there's currently no way for the guest to notify
>> the host about panics. Further more, there's no reasonable way to notify the
>> host of other critical events such as an OOM kill.
>
> I clearly missed the discussion.  Is this actually useful?  In practice,

Admit this is not a killer feature..

> won't you want the log from the guest?  What makes a virtual guest
> different from a physical guest?

Most times virt guest can do better than a physical OS. In that sense, 
this is where virtualization shines (live migration, hotplug for any 
virtual resource including net/block/cpu/memory/..).

There are plenty of niche but worth while small features such as the 
virtio-trace series and other that allow the host/virt-mgmt to get more 
insight into the guest w/o a need to configure the guest.

In theory guest OOM can trigger a host memory hot plug action. Again, I 
don't see it as a key feature..

>
> Guest watchdog functionality might be useful, but that's simpler to

There is already a fully emulated watchdog device in qemu.
Cheers,
Dor

> implement via a virtio watchdog device, and more effective to implement
> via a host facility that actually pings guest functionality (rather than
> the kernel).
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-24  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 20:32 [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio: Introduce virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-23 20:32 ` [RFC 2/2] kvm tools: support virtio-notifier Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  4:55 ` [RFC 0/2] virtio: provide a way for host to monitor critical events in the device Rusty Russell
2012-07-24  8:26   ` Dor Laor [this message]
2012-07-24 12:30     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:46       ` Dor Laor
2012-07-24 13:01         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-25  0:36           ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-25  8:46             ` Amit Shah
2012-07-24 12:23   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24  7:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:26   ` Sasha Levin
     [not found]   ` <500E9479.3050405@gmail.com>
2012-07-24 12:28     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-24 12:31       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-24 12:33         ` Gleb Natapov

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