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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
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	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>,
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	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <borislav.petkov@amd.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: Readonly GDT
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:58:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5164B93A.1050706@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365555234.25498.91.camel@gandalf.local.home>

On 04/09/2013 05:53 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 17:43 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> OK, thinking about the GDT here.
>>
>> The GDT is quite small -- 256 bytes on i386, 128 bytes on x86-64.  As
>> such, we probably don't want to allocate a full page to it for only
>> that.  This means that in order to create a readonly mapping we have to
>> pack GDTs from different CPUs together in the same pages, *or* we
>> tolerate that other things on the same page gets reflected in the same
>> mapping.
> 
> What about grouping via nodes?
> 

Would be nicer for locality, although probably adds [even] more complexity.

We don't really care about 32-bit NUMA anymore -- it keeps getting
suggested for deletion, even.  For 64-bit it might make sense to just
reflect out of the percpu area even though it munches address space.

>>
>> However, the packing solution has the advantage of reducing address
>> space consumption which matters on 32 bits: even on i386 we can easily
>> burn a megabyte of address space for 4096 processors, but burning 16
>> megabytes starts to hurt.
> 
> Having 4096 32 bit processors, you deserve what you get. ;-)
> 

Well, the main problem is that it might get difficult to make this a
runtime thing; it more likely ends up being a compile-time bit.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-08 22:43 [PATCH] x86: make IDT read-only Kees Cook
2013-04-08 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-08 22:55   ` Kees Cook
2013-04-08 22:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-09  9:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-04-09  9:45   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-04-10  9:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10 10:40       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-04-10 16:31         ` Eric Northup
2013-04-10 16:48           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1304091122490.21884@ionos>
2013-04-09 18:22     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2013-04-09 18:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-09 18:31         ` Kees Cook
2013-04-09 18:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-09 18:46             ` Kees Cook
2013-04-09 18:50               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-09 18:53                 ` Kees Cook
2013-04-09 18:54               ` Eric Northup
2013-04-09 18:59                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  0:43                 ` Readonly GDT H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  0:53                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-04-10  0:58                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-04-10  9:42                   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-04-10 14:16                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10 18:28                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  9:41               ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH] x86: make IDT read-only Ingo Molnar
2013-04-10  0:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-10  9:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-08 22:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304082350540.25182@linux-mips.org>
2013-04-08 23:00   ` Kees Cook
2013-04-08 23:05   ` Kees Cook
2013-04-08 23:42     ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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