From: Heinz Graalfs <graalfs@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: borntraeger@de.ibm.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 RFC 3/4] virtio_blk: avoid calling blk_cleanup_queue() on device loss
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:15:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5295FE91.7050601@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131127124956.GA30325@redhat.com>
On 27/11/13 13:49, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:37:02PM +0100, Heinz Graalfs wrote:
>> On 27/11/13 11:47, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:32:39AM +0100, Heinz Graalfs wrote:
>>>> Code is added to avoid calling blk_cleanup_queue() when the surprize_removal
>>>> flag is set due to a disappeared device. It avoid hangs due to incomplete
>>>> requests (e.g. in-flight requests). Such requests must be considered as lost.
>>>
>>> Ugh. Can't we complete these immediately using detach_unused_buf? If not why?
>>
>> OK, I will try
I tried virtqueue_detach_unused_buf(). It doesn't seem to solve the
problem. Would that affect block layer in-flight requests anyway? The
function comment also says it should not be used on an active queue.
Isn't there a mechanism to end vring requests for which a
vring_interrupt() is missing? (simulate virtblk_done() with an error)?
At least that's it what would help, I suppose.
>>
>>>
>>>> If the current remove callback was triggered due to an unregister driver,
>>>> and the surprize_removal is not already set (although the actual device
>>>> is already gone, e.g. virsh detach), blk_cleanup_queue() would be triggered
>>>> resulting in a possible hang. This hang is caused by e.g. 'in-flight' requests
>>>> that will never complete. This is a weird situation, and most likely not
>>>> 'serializable'.
>>>
>>> Hmm interesting. Implement some timeout and probe device to make sure
>>> it's still alive?
This patch doesn't try to solve any weird races.
It avoids triggering the block queue cleanup, with potential for a hang,
IFF a device is gone.
>>
>> but there is always some race, isn't it?
>
> To clarify, why this might not be very elegant, a timer-based
> solution for surprise removal during driver cleanup
> might be easier than trying to build robust interfaces
> to address this esoteric case.
>
> But what worries me is that it's not clear to me that ccw won't
> invoke notify in parallel with remove callback.
> If this happens there will be use after free.
OK, I agree, calling remove twice or working on freed stuff must not happen.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-27 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-27 10:32 [PATCH v3 RFC 0/4] virtio: add 'surprize_removal' to virtio_device Heinz Graalfs
2013-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH v3 RFC 1/4] virtio: add surprize_removal " Heinz Graalfs
2013-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH v3 RFC 2/4] virtio_blk: avoid further request queueing on device loss Heinz Graalfs
2013-12-04 4:04 ` Rusty Russell
2013-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH v3 RFC 3/4] virtio_blk: avoid calling blk_cleanup_queue() " Heinz Graalfs
2013-11-27 10:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 11:37 ` Heinz Graalfs
2013-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 12:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 14:15 ` Heinz Graalfs [this message]
2013-11-27 14:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH v3 RFC 4/4] virtio_ccw: set surprize_removal in virtio_device if a device was lost Heinz Graalfs
2013-11-27 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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