From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Standardizing an MSR or other hypercall to get an RNG seed?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:58:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <541B0121.8040503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWj+uazLFuy84abnDYCu5D7OYQh9=yNj4gFcoEMO8b+gA@mail.gmail.com>
Il 18/09/2014 17:44, Andy Lutomirski ha scritto:
> Slight correction: QEMU/KVM has optional support for Hyper-V feature
> enumeration. Ideally the RNG seed mechanism would be enabled by
> default, but I don't know whether the QEMU maintainers would be okay
> with enabling the Hyper-V cpuid mechanism in a default configuration.
Some guests cannot find the KVM leaves at 0x40000100, so it wouldn't be
great. And I also don't know what VMware folks would think, but I think
they would be even less thrilled than me.
Note that even if there is no well-defined CPUID leaf, and the main
detection mechanism is #GP, each hypervisor is free to define a CPUID
bit of its own.
However, if it's going to be an architectural (Intel-defined) MSR, I
think the right place for a feature bit is in the low leaves (like
EAX=7, ECX=0).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-18 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-18 2:50 Standardizing an MSR or other hypercall to get an RNG seed? Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 14:40 ` KY Srinivasan
[not found] ` <2aa00301e9af4826b5781e01709f81e7@BY2PR0301MB0711.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2014-09-18 14:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 15:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 15:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 15:58 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-09-18 16:36 ` KY Srinivasan
[not found] ` <5b9c7dcde3824e49a25f3ee00844b868@BY2PR0301MB0711.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2014-09-18 17:13 ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 17:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <541B13B8.1020006@redhat.com>
2014-09-18 17:20 ` Jake Oshins
2014-09-18 17:20 ` KY Srinivasan
[not found] ` <b697ef83ae594d8fb34347339dd52dfa@BY2PR0301MB0711.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2014-09-18 17:42 ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 18:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 18:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 18:54 ` Niels Ferguson
2014-09-18 19:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:54 ` David Hepkin
[not found] ` <572ba53a2e1e4278823f718a421e2c1d@BY2PR03MB585.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2014-09-19 6:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 18:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 19:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:21 ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-18 21:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 21:46 ` David Hepkin
[not found] ` <0180a8dfcad746a895755c4374853c16@BY2PR03MB585.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2014-09-18 21:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 22:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 0:49 ` Nakajima, Jun
[not found] ` <CAL54oT1Q8kABge=t4s5REVWWakboON-6vfszMRkVz=ks_3vRoA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-19 1:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 1:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWZ1cF23aT82yGfTKS48d2G+_Od7hEkAzDWzDhqpHNVqA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-19 16:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-19 16:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-19 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 17:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 22:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 22:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 22:57 ` Nakajima, Jun
2014-09-19 22:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 23:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 23:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-19 23:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-20 0:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 22:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 16:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 17:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 18:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 18:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-19 18:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 20:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-22 4:11 ` Alok Kataria
2014-09-19 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19 17:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 17:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2014-09-18 18:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-19 18:30 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-19 18:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 20:21 ` Nadav Amit
[not found] ` <15C8041A-3488-4693-B329-3A9FE77A0CB9@gmail.com>
2014-09-19 20:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 21:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 13:31 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-22 14:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 14:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22 23:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-21 12:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-22 13:33 ` Christopher Covington
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=541B0121.8040503@redhat.com \
--to=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=gleb@kernel.org \
--cc=hpa@zytor.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=luto@amacapital.net \
--cc=tytso@mit.edu \
--cc=virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).