From: Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
To: "jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"eperezma@redhat.com" <eperezma@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v4 02/15] vdpa: Add VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_ADDR_IN_SUSPEND flag
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 11:52:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <70adc734331c1289dceb3bcdc991f3da7e4db2f0.camel@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWeBVVcTZEzZK=63Ymk85wnRFd+_wK56UfEHNXBH-qy1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2023-12-21 at 08:46 +0100, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 3:03 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 9:32 PM Eugenio Perez Martin
> > <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 5:06 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:46 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 2:09 AM Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The virtio spec doesn't allow changing virtqueue addresses after
> > > > > > DRIVER_OK. Some devices do support this operation when the device is
> > > > > > suspended. The VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_ADDR_IN_SUSPEND flag
> > > > > > advertises this support as a backend features.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's an ongoing effort in virtio spec to introduce the suspend state.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I wonder if it's better to just allow such behaviour?
> > > >
> > > > Actually I mean, allow drivers to modify the parameters during suspend
> > > > without a new feature.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That would be ideal, but how do userland checks if it can suspend +
> > > change properties + resume?
> >
> > As discussed, it looks to me the only device that supports suspend is
> > simulator and it supports change properties.
> >
> > E.g:
> >
> > static int vdpasim_set_vq_address(struct vdpa_device *vdpa, u16 idx,
> > u64 desc_area, u64 driver_area,
> > u64 device_area)
> > {
> > struct vdpasim *vdpasim = vdpa_to_sim(vdpa);
> > struct vdpasim_virtqueue *vq = &vdpasim->vqs[idx];
> >
> > vq->desc_addr = desc_area;
> > vq->driver_addr = driver_area;
> > vq->device_addr = device_area;
> >
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
>
> So in the current kernel master it is valid to set a different vq
> address while the device is suspended in vdpa_sim. But it is not valid
> in mlx5, as the FW will not be updated in resume (Dragos, please
> correct me if I'm wrong). Both of them return success.
>
In the current state, there is no resume. HW Virtqueues will just get re-created
with the new address.
> How can we know in the destination QEMU if it is valid to suspend &
> set address? Should we handle this as a bugfix and backport the
> change?
>
> > >
> > > The only way that comes to my mind is to make sure all parents return
> > > error if userland tries to do it, and then fallback in userland.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > I'm
> > > ok with that, but I'm not sure if the current master & previous kernel
> > > has a coherent behavior. Do they return error? Or return success
> > > without changing address / vq state?
> >
> > We probably don't need to worry too much here, as e.g set_vq_address
> > could fail even without suspend (just at uAPI level).
> >
>
> I don't get this, sorry. I rephrased my point with an example earlier
> in the mail.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-21 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-19 18:08 [PATCH vhost v4 00/15] vdpa/mlx5: Add support for resumable vqs Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH mlx5-vhost v4 01/15] vdpa/mlx5: Expose resumable vq capability Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 02/15] vdpa: Add VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_ADDR_IN_SUSPEND flag Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-20 4:05 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-20 12:57 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 13:32 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-21 2:03 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-21 7:46 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-21 11:52 ` Dragos Tatulea [this message]
2023-12-21 12:08 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-21 14:38 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-21 14:55 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-21 15:07 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-22 7:30 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-22 8:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-22 10:51 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-25 13:45 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-22 2:50 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-20 16:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 03/15] vdpa: Add VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_STATE_IN_SUSPEND flag Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 16:10 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 04/15] vdpa: Accept VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_ADDR_IN_SUSPEND backend feature Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 16:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 05/15] vdpa: Accept VHOST_BACKEND_F_CHANGEABLE_VQ_STATE_IN_SUSPEND " Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 16:12 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 06/15] vdpa: Track device suspended state Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-20 12:55 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-22 11:22 ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-25 4:11 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 07/15] vdpa: Block vq address change in DRIVER_OK unless device supports it Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 16:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 08/15] vdpa: Block vq state " Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 16:32 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 09/15] vdpa/mlx5: Allow modifying multiple vq fields in one modify command Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 10/15] vdpa/mlx5: Introduce per vq and device resume Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:47 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 11/15] vdpa/mlx5: Mark vq addrs for modification in hw vq Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 12/15] vdpa/mlx5: Mark vq state " Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:47 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 13/15] vdpa/mlx5: Use vq suspend/resume during .set_map Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:47 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 14/15] vdpa/mlx5: Introduce reference counting to mrs Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-20 3:47 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-19 18:08 ` [PATCH vhost v4 15/15] vdpa/mlx5: Add mkey leak detection Dragos Tatulea
2023-12-25 14:41 ` [PATCH vhost v4 00/15] vdpa/mlx5: Add support for resumable vqs Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-25 15:05 ` Dragos Tatulea
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