From: Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:50:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7660500c-c90f-4db0-87d5-05abd1cb1dbb@opensynergy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24a6fd46a3383aa8d18d19511b8422baad37317c.camel@infradead.org>
On 05.07.24 17:02, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 10:12 +0200, Peter Hilber wrote:
>> On 03.07.24 12:40, David Woodhouse wrote:
[...]
>>> • Why is maxerror in picoseconds? It's the only use of that unit
>
> Between us we now have picoseconds, nanoseconds, (seconds >> 64) and
> (seconds >> 64+n).
>
> The power-of-two fractions seem to make a lot of sense for the counter
> period, because they mean we don't have to perform divisions.
>
> Does it makes sense to harmonise on (seconds >> 64) for all of the
> fractional seconds? Again I don't have a strong opinion; I only want us
> to have a *reason* for any differences that exist.
>
I don't have the expertise with fixed-point arithmetic to judge if this
would become unwieldy.
I selected ns for the virtio-rtc drafts so far because that didn't have any
impact on the precision with the Linux kernel driver message-based use
cases, but that would be different for SHM in my understanding.
So I would tend to retain ns for convenience for messages (where it doesn't
impact precision) but do not have any preference for SHM.
>>> • Where do the clock_status values come from? Do they make sense?
>>> • Are signed integers OK? (I think so!).
>>
>> Signed integers would need to be introduced to Virtio, which so far only
>> uses explicitly unsigned types: u8, le16 etc.
>
> Perhaps. Although it would also be possible (if not ideal) to define
> that e.g. the tai_offset field is a 16-bit "unsigned" integer according
> to virtio, but to be interpreted as follows:
>
> If the number is <= 32767 then the TAI offset is that value, but if the
> number is >= 32768 then the TAI offset is that value minus 65536.
>
> Perhaps not pretty, but there isn't a *fundamental* dependency on
> virtio supporting signed integers as a primary type.
>
Agreed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-06 8:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-18 7:38 [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Add virtio_rtc module and related changes Peter Hilber
2023-12-18 7:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] virtio_rtc: Add module and driver core Peter Hilber
2023-12-18 7:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] virtio_rtc: Add PTP clocks Peter Hilber
2024-06-15 8:01 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-20 12:01 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-20 14:33 ` David Woodhouse
2023-12-18 7:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] virtio_rtc: Add Arm Generic Timer cross-timestamping Peter Hilber
2024-06-15 7:50 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-20 12:06 ` Peter Hilber
2023-12-18 7:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] virtio_rtc: Add RTC class driver Peter Hilber
2024-03-08 17:03 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-03-11 18:28 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-11 19:46 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-03-13 9:13 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-07 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Add virtio_rtc module and related changes David Woodhouse
2024-03-08 10:32 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-08 12:33 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-11 18:24 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-12 17:15 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 9:45 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-13 11:18 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-03-13 12:29 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 12:58 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-03-13 14:06 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 14:50 ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-03-13 20:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-03-14 9:13 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-13 17:50 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-13 14:15 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-13 12:45 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 17:50 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-13 18:18 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-14 10:13 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-14 14:19 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-19 13:47 ` Peter Hilber
2024-03-20 17:22 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-15 8:40 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-20 12:37 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-20 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-21 8:45 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-25 19:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support David Woodhouse
2024-06-25 21:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-25 21:48 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-25 22:22 ` John Stultz
2024-06-26 8:32 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-26 16:43 ` Richard Cochran
2024-06-27 13:50 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-27 14:52 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-28 11:33 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-28 12:15 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-28 16:38 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-28 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-01 8:57 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-02 15:03 ` Peter Hilber
2024-07-02 16:39 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-02 18:12 ` Peter Hilber
2024-07-02 18:40 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-03 9:56 ` Peter Hilber
2024-07-03 10:40 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-05 8:12 ` Peter Hilber
2024-07-05 15:02 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-06 7:50 ` Peter Hilber [this message]
2024-06-27 16:03 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-28 11:33 ` Peter Hilber
2024-06-28 11:41 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-30 13:28 ` Simon Horman
2024-07-01 8:02 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-01 15:39 ` Kees Cook
2024-07-03 8:00 ` David Woodhouse
2024-06-27 13:50 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Add virtio_rtc module and related changes Peter Hilber
2024-06-21 14:02 ` David Woodhouse
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