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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>
Cc: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/mempolicy: track page allocations per mempolicy
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 14:44:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a4w7x8d0.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d66401f-9874-4047-971b-632723b0b7ee@linux.dev> (JP Kobryn's message of "Mon, 16 Mar 2026 21:37:01 -0700")

"JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev> writes:

> On 3/15/26 7:54 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> "JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev> writes:
>> 
>>> On 3/13/26 12:34 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/26 07:14, JP Kobryn (Meta) wrote:
>>>>> On 3/12/26 10:07 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>>> "JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/12/26 6:40 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about I change from per-policy hit/miss/foreign triplets to a single
>>>>>>> aggregated policy triplet (i.e. just 3 new counters which account for
>>>>>>> all policies)? They would follow the same hit/miss/foreign semantics
>>>>>>> already proposed (visible in quoted text above). This would still
>>>>>>> provide the otherwise missing signal of whether policy-driven
>>>>>>> allocations to a node are intentional or fallback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that I am also planning on moving the stats off of the memcg so the
>>>>>>> 3 new counters will be global per-node in response to similar feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emm, what's the difference between these newly added counters and the
>>>>>> existing numa_hit/miss/foreign counters?
>>>>>
>>>>> The existing counters don't account for node masks in the policies that
>>>>> make use of them. An allocation can land on a node in the mask and still
>>>>> be considered a miss because it wasn't the preferred node.
>>>> That sounds like we could just a new counter e.g. numa_hit_preferred
>>>> and
>>>> adjust definitions accordingly? Or some other variant that fills the gap?
>>>
>>> It's an interesting thought. Looking into these existing counters more,
>>> the in-kernel direct node allocations, which don't fall under any
>>> mempolicy, are also included in these stats. One good example might be
>>> include/linux/skbuff.h, where __dev_alloc_pages() calls
>>> alloc_pages_node_noprof(NUMA_NO_NODE, ...) which eventually reaches
>>> zone_statistics() and increments the stats.
>> IIUC, the default memory policy is used here, that is, MPOL_LOCAL.
>
> I'm not seeing that. zone_statistics() is eventually reached.
> alloc_pages_mpol() is not.

Yes.  The page isn't allocated through alloc_pages_mpol().  For example,
if we want to allocate pages for the kernel instead of user space
applications.  However, IMHO, the equivalent memory policy is
MPOL_LOCAL, that is, allocate from local node firstly, then fallback to
other nodes.  I don't think that alloc_pages_mpol() is so special.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-17  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-07  4:55 [PATCH v2] mm/mempolicy: track page allocations per mempolicy JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-07 12:27 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-08 19:20   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-09  4:11     ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-09  4:31   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-11  2:56     ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-11 17:31       ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-07 14:32 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-07 19:57 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-08 19:24 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-09  3:30   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-11 18:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-09 23:35 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-09 23:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-10  4:17   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-10 14:53     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-10 17:01       ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-12 13:40 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-12 16:13   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-13  5:07     ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-13  6:14       ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-13  7:34         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-13  9:31           ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-13 18:28             ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-13 18:09           ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-16  2:54             ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-17  4:37               ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-17  6:44                 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2026-03-17 11:10                   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-17 17:55                   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)

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