From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Daniel Wagner <wagi@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 10/12] blk-mq: use hk cpus only when isolcpus=io_queue is enabled
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:31:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cy7vrbc4.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc5ebdea-7091-4999-a021-ec2a65573aa0@flourine.local>
On Fri, Sep 12 2025 at 10:32, Daniel Wagner wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:20:26AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> > The cpu_online_mask might change over time, it's not a static bitmap.
>> > Thus it's necessary to update the blk_hk_online_mask. Doing some sort of
>> > caching is certainly possible. Given that we have plenty of cpumask
>> > logic operation in the cpu_group_evenly code path later, I am not so
>> > sure this really makes a huge difference.
>>
>> Sure, but none of this is serialized against CPU hotplug operations. So
>> the resulting mask, which is handed into the spreading code can be
>> concurrently modified. IOW it's not as const as the code claims.
>
> Thanks for explaining.
>
> In group_cpu_evenly:
>
> /*
> * Make a local cache of 'cpu_present_mask', so the two stages
> * spread can observe consistent 'cpu_present_mask' without holding
> * cpu hotplug lock, then we can reduce deadlock risk with cpu
> * hotplug code.
> *
> * Here CPU hotplug may happen when reading `cpu_present_mask`, and
> * we can live with the case because it only affects that hotplug
> * CPU is handled in the 1st or 2nd stage, and either way is correct
> * from API user viewpoint since 2-stage spread is sort of
> * optimization.
> */
> cpumask_copy(npresmsk, data_race(cpu_present_mask));
The present mask is very different from the online mask. The present
mask only changes on physical hotplug when:
- a offline CPU is removed from the present set of CPUs
- a offline CPU is added to it.
In neither case the CPU can be involved in any operation related to the
actual offline/online operations.
Also contrary to your approach, this code takes the possibility of
a concurrently changing mask into account by taking a racy snapshot,
which is immutable for the following operation.
What you are doing with that static mask, makes it a target of
concurrent modification, which is obviously a recipe for subtle bugs.
> Turns out the two stage spread just needs consistent 'cpu_present_mask',
> and remove the CPU hotplug lock by storing it into one local cache. This
> way doesn't change correctness, because all CPUs are still covered.
>
> This sounds like I should do something similar with cpu_online_mask.
Indeed.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-12 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 14:59 [PATCH v8 00/12] blk: honor isolcpus configuration Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] scsi: aacraid: use block layer helpers to calculate num of queues Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 6:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] lib/group_cpus: remove dead !SMP code Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 6:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] lib/group_cpus: Add group_mask_cpus_evenly() Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] genirq/affinity: Add cpumask to struct irq_affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-09-10 8:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] blk-mq: add blk_mq_{online|possible}_queue_affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] nvme-pci: use block layer helpers to constrain queue affinity Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] scsi: Use " Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 6:08 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] virtio: blk/scsi: use " Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] isolation: Introduce io_queue isolcpus type Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] blk-mq: use hk cpus only when isolcpus=io_queue is enabled Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 6:13 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-08 7:26 ` Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 7:51 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-09-08 8:08 ` Daniel Wagner
2025-09-10 8:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-12 8:32 ` Daniel Wagner
2025-09-12 14:31 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-09-08 7:36 ` Daniel Wagner
2025-09-08 13:05 ` Daniel Wagner
2025-09-10 6:05 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] blk-mq: prevent offlining hk CPUs with associated online isolated CPUs Daniel Wagner
2025-09-05 14:59 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] docs: add io_queue flag to isolcpus Daniel Wagner
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