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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: sjur@brendeland.net, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Erwan Yvin <erwan.yvin@stericsson.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	sjur.brandeland@stericsson.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tools/virtio: make barriers stronger.
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:56:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5dywyqy.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130307092908.GA4129@redhat.com>

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 02:48:24PM +1100, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 03:54:42PM +1100, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> >> In the coming vringh_test, we share an mmap with another userspace process
>> >> for testing.  This requires real barriers.
>> >> 
>> >> Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>> >> 
>> >> diff --git a/tools/virtio/asm/barrier.h b/tools/virtio/asm/barrier.h
>> >> index aff61e1..7a63693 100644
>> >> --- a/tools/virtio/asm/barrier.h
>> >> +++ b/tools/virtio/asm/barrier.h
>> >> @@ -3,8 +3,8 @@
>> >>  #define mb() __sync_synchronize()
>> >>  
>> >>  #define smp_mb()	mb()
>> >> -# define smp_rmb()	barrier()
>> >> -# define smp_wmb()	barrier()
>> >> +# define smp_rmb()	mb()
>> >> +# define smp_wmb()	mb()
>> >>  /* Weak barriers should be used. If not - it's a bug */
>> >>  # define rmb()	abort()
>> >>  # define wmb()	abort()
>> >
>> > Hmm this seems wrong on x86 which has strong order in hardware.
>> > It should not matter whether the other side is a userspace
>> > process or a kernel thread.
>> 
>> Actually, this code is completely generic now, though overkill for x86 smp_wmb():
>> 
>> Interestingly, when I try defining them, 32-bit x86 slows down (it seems
>> that gcc is using "lock orl $0x0,(%esp)" for __sync_synchronize()).:
>
> Well this depends on which arch you are building for.
> We saw this in qemu too, see e.g. include/qemu/atomic.h in qemu.

Hmm, I thought x86 had load reordering, but it seems that was only some
older chips, which we can consider obsolete.

I learned something... I've dropped the patch.

Thanks,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-07 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-05 13:51 [PATCH vringh] virtio: Introduce vringh wrappers in virtio_config sjur.brandeland
2013-03-06  4:42 ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-06 10:50   ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-06 12:16     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2013-03-06 12:37       ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-06 23:28         ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-06  4:46 ` [FYI] vringh fixes Rusty Russell
2013-03-06  4:53   ` [PATCH 1/2] Rusty Russell
2013-03-06  4:54     ` [PATCH 2/2] tools/virtio: make barriers stronger Rusty Russell
2013-03-06 10:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-07  3:48         ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-07  9:29           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-07 23:56             ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2013-03-06  4:57   ` [PATCH 1/3] vringh: host-side implementation of virtio rings (v2) Rusty Russell
2013-03-06  4:59     ` [PATCH 2/3] vringh: don't flag already listening Rusty Russell
2013-03-06  5:02     ` [PATCH 3/3] tools/virtio: add vring_test (v2) Rusty Russell

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