From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:03:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5jfwxmr.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5073F9D4.5060000@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:
> On 10/09/2012 05:16 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> writes:
>>> We'll never remove legacy so we shouldn't plan on it. There are
>>> literally hundreds of thousands of VMs out there with the current virtio
>>> drivers installed in them. We'll be supporting them for a very, very
>>> long time :-)
>>
>> You will be supporting this for qemu on x86, sure. As I think we're
>> still in the growth phase for virtio, I prioritize future spec
>> cleanliness pretty high.
>
> If a pure ppc hypervisor was on the table, this might have been
> worthwhile. As it is the codebase is shared, and the Linux drivers are
> shared, so cleaning up the spec doesn't help the code.
Note that distros have been (perhaps unknowingly) shipping virtio-pci
for PPC for some time now.
So even though there wasn't a hypervisor that supported virtio-pci, the
guests already support it and are out there in the wild.
There's a lot of value in maintaining "legacy" support even for PPC.
>> But I think you'll be surprised how fast this is deprecated:
>> 1) Bigger queues for block devices (guest-specified ringsize)
>> 2) Smaller rings for openbios (guest-specified alignment)
>> 3) All-mmio mode (powerpc)
>> 4) Whatever network features get numbers > 31.
>>
>>> I don't think we gain a lot by moving the ISR into a separate BAR.
>>> Splitting up registers like that seems weird to me too.
>>
>> Confused. I proposed the same split as you have, just ISR by itself.
>
> I believe Anthony objects to having the ISR by itself. What is the
> motivation for that?
Right, BARs are a precious resource not to be spent lightly. Having an
entire BAR dedicated to a 1-byte register seems like a waste to me.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <87zk4c2tqq.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-04 18:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Proposal for virtio standardization Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <874nmajcmj.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2012-10-08 2:21 ` Using PCI config space to indicate config location Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87y5jhpuu2.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-08 13:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87bogddq0l.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2012-10-08 14:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 20:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 23:56 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 1:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 3:16 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 6:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87wqyzll8r.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2012-10-09 20:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-10 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87zk3v6npm.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-10 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87haq48hds.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-09 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-10-09 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <874nm3ycj8.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20121009210901.GY14867@jl-vm1.vm.bytemark.co.uk>
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 8:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 1:18 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 22:29 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87391k7icv.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-12 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12 9:51 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 10:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:15 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87k3uqpngi.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-10-16 13:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:52 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 14:02 ` Proposal for virtio standardization Cornelia Huck
[not found] ` <20121009160201.5303a7ca@BR9GNB5Z>
2012-10-10 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
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