From: Tobias Huschle <huschle@linux.ibm.com>
To: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: EEVDF/vhost regression (bisected to 86bfbb7ce4f6 sched/fair: Add lag based placement)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:31:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWbapeL34Z8AMR5f@DESKTOP-2CCOB1S.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4110c79-d64f-49bd-9f69-0a94369b5e86@bytedance.com>
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:55:11PM +0800, Abel Wu wrote:
> On 11/27/23 9:56 PM, Tobias Huschle Wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:00:16AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 02:17:21PM +0100, Tobias Huschle wrote:
[...]
> > - At depth 4, the cgroup shows the observed vruntime value which is smaller
> > by a factor of 20, but depth 0 seems to be running with values of the
> > correct magnitude.
>
> A child is running means its parent also being the cfs->curr, but
> not vice versa if there are more than one child.
>
> > - cgroup at depth 0 has zero lag, with higher depth, there are large lag
> > values (as observed 606.338267 onwards)
>
> These values of se->vlag means 'run this entity to parity' to avoid
> excess context switch, which is what RUN_TO_PARITY does, or nothing
> when !RUN_TO_PARITY. In short, se->vlag is not vlag when se->on_rq.
>
Thanks for clarifying that. This makes things clearer to me.
> >
> > Now the following occurs, triggered by the vhost:
> > - The kworker gets placed again with:
> > vruntime deadline
> > cgroup 56117619190 57650477291 -> depth 0, last known value
> > kworker 56117885776 56120885776 -> lag of -725
> > - vhost continues executing and updates its vruntime accordingly, here
> > I would need to enhance the trace to also print the vruntimes of the
> > parent sched_entities to see the progress of their vruntime/deadline/lag
> > values as well
> > - It is a bit irritating that the EEVDF algorithm would not pick the kworker
> > over the cgroup as its deadline is smaller.
> > But, the kworker has negative lag, which might cause EEVDF to not pick
> > the kworker.
> > The cgroup at depth 0 has no lag, all deeper layers have a significantly
> > positve lag (last known values, might have changed in the meantime).
> > At this point I would see the option that the vhost task is stuck
> > somewhere or EEVDF just does not see the kworker as a eligible option.
>
> IMHO such lag should not introduce that long delay. Can you run the
> test again with NEXT_BUDDY disabled?
I added a trace event to the next buddy path, it does not get triggered, so I'd
assume that no buddies are selected.
>
> >
> > - Once the vhost is migrated off the cpu, the update_entity_lag function
> > works with the following values at 606.467022: sched_update
> > For the cgroup at depth 0
> > - vruntime = 57104166665 --> this is in line with the amount of new timeslices
> > vhost got assigned while the kworker was waiting
> > - vlag = -62439022 --> the scheduler knows that the cgroup was
> > overconsuming, but no runtime for the kworker
> > For the cfs_rq we have
> > - min_vruntime = 56117885776 --> this matches the vruntime of the kworker
> > - avg_vruntime = 161750065796 --> this is rather large in comparison, but I
> > might access this value at a bad time
>
> Use avg_vruntime() instead.
Fair.
[...]
> >
> > ######################### full trace #########################
> >
> > sched_bestvnode: v=vruntime,d=deadline,l=vlag,md=min_deadline,dp=depth
> > --> during __pick_eevdf, prints values for best and the first node loop variable, second loop is never executed
> >
> > sched_place/sched_update: sev=se->vruntime,sed=se->deadline,sev=se->vlag,avg=cfs_rq->avg_vruntime,min=cfs_rq->min_vruntime
>
> It would be better replace cfs_rq->avg_vruntime with avg_vruntime().
> Although we can get real @avg by (vruntime + vlag), I am not sure
> vlag (@lag in trace) is se->vlag or the local variable in the place
> function which is scaled and no longer be the true vlag.
>
Oh my bad, sev is the vlag value of the sched_entity, lag is the local variable.
[...]
> > vhost-2931-2953 [013] d.... 606.338313: sched_wakeup: comm=kworker/13:1 pid=168 prio=120 target_cpu=013
> > --> kworker set to runnable, but vhost keeps on executing
>
> What are the weights of the two entities?
I'll do another run and look at those values.
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-29 6:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-16 18:58 EEVDF/vhost regression (bisected to 86bfbb7ce4f6 sched/fair: Add lag based placement) Tobias Huschle
2023-11-17 9:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-17 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-17 12:24 ` Tobias Huschle
2023-11-17 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-17 13:07 ` Abel Wu
2023-11-21 13:17 ` Tobias Huschle
2023-11-22 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-27 13:56 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <6564a012.c80a0220.adb78.f0e4SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2023-11-28 8:55 ` Abel Wu
2023-11-29 6:31 ` Tobias Huschle [this message]
2023-12-07 6:22 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <07513.123120701265800278@us-mta-474.us.mimecast.lan>
2023-12-07 6:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-08 9:24 ` Tobias Huschle
2023-12-08 17:28 ` Mike Christie
[not found] ` <56082.123120804242300177@us-mta-137.us.mimecast.lan>
2023-12-08 10:31 ` Re: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-08 11:41 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <53044.123120806415900549@us-mta-342.us.mimecast.lan>
2023-12-09 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-11 7:26 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-11 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-12 3:00 ` Jason Wang
2023-12-12 16:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-13 10:37 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <42870.123121305373200110@us-mta-641.us.mimecast.lan>
2023-12-13 12:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-13 12:45 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <25485.123121307454100283@us-mta-18.us.mimecast.lan>
2023-12-13 14:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-13 14:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-14 7:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-08 13:13 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <92916.124010808133201076@us-mta-622.us.mimecast.lan>
2024-01-09 23:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-21 18:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-22 11:29 ` Tobias Huschle
2024-02-01 7:38 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <07974.124020102385100135@us-mta-501.us.mimecast.lan>
2024-02-01 8:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-02-01 11:47 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <89460.124020106474400877@us-mta-475.us.mimecast.lan>
2024-02-01 12:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-02-22 19:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-11 17:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-12 9:45 ` Luis Machado
2024-03-14 11:46 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <73123.124031407552500165@us-mta-156.us.mimecast.lan>
2024-03-14 15:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-15 8:33 ` Tobias Huschle
[not found] ` <84704.124031504335801509@us-mta-515.us.mimecast.lan>
2024-03-15 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 8:21 ` Tobias Huschle
2024-03-19 8:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 8:59 ` Tobias Huschle
2024-04-30 10:50 ` Tobias Huschle
2024-05-01 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-01 15:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-02 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-02 12:23 ` Tobias Huschle
2024-05-02 12:20 ` Tobias Huschle
2023-11-18 5:14 ` Abel Wu
2023-11-20 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-20 12:06 ` Abel Wu
2023-11-18 7:33 ` Abel Wu
2023-11-18 15:29 ` Honglei Wang
2023-11-19 13:29 ` Bagas Sanjaya
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