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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: "Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/8] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_attach_revocable()
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 20:38:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXfQ1LFNDUrfeuHf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260124-dmabuf-revoke-v5-6-f98fca917e96@nvidia.com>

Hi Leon,

On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 09:14:18PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> 
> Some exporters need a flow to synchronously revoke access to the DMA-buf
> by importers. Once revoke is completed the importer is not permitted to
> touch the memory otherwise they may get IOMMU faults, AERs, or worse.
> 
> DMA-buf today defines a revoke flow, for both pinned and dynamic
> importers, which is broadly:
> 
> 	dma_resv_lock(dmabuf->resv, NULL);
> 	// Prevent new mappings from being established
> 	priv->revoked = true;
> 
> 	// Tell all importers to eventually unmap
> 	dma_buf_invalidate_mappings(dmabuf);
> 
> 	// Wait for any inprogress fences on the old mapping
> 	dma_resv_wait_timeout(dmabuf->resv,
> 			      DMA_RESV_USAGE_BOOKKEEP, false,
> 			      MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT);
> 	dma_resv_unlock(dmabuf->resv, NULL);
> 
> 	// Wait for all importers to complete unmap
> 	wait_for_completion(&priv->unmapped_comp);
> 
> This works well, and an importer that continues to access the DMA-buf
> after unmapping it is very buggy.
> 
> However, the final wait for unmap is effectively unbounded. Several
> importers do not support invalidate_mappings() at all and won't unmap
> until userspace triggers it.
> 
> This unbounded wait is not suitable for exporters like VFIO and RDMA tha
> need to issue revoke as part of their normal operations.
> 
> Add dma_buf_attach_revocable() to allow exporters to determine the
> difference between importers that can complete the above in bounded time,
> and those that can't. It can be called inside the exporter's attach op to
> reject incompatible importers.
> 
> Document these details about how dma_buf_invalidate_mappings() works and
> what the required sequence is to achieve a full revocation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c | 48 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  include/linux/dma-buf.h   |  9 +++------
>  2 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> index 1629312d364a..f0e05227bda8 100644
> --- a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> @@ -1242,13 +1242,59 @@ void dma_buf_unmap_attachment_unlocked(struct dma_buf_attachment *attach,
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(dma_buf_unmap_attachment_unlocked, "DMA_BUF");
>  
> +/**
> + * dma_buf_attach_revocable - check if a DMA-buf importer implements
> + * revoke semantics.
> + * @attach: the DMA-buf attachment to check
> + *
> + * Returns true if the DMA-buf importer can support the revoke sequence
> + * explained in dma_buf_invalidate_mappings() within bounded time. Meaning the
> + * importer implements invalidate_mappings() and ensures that unmap is called as
> + * a result.
> + */
> +bool dma_buf_attach_revocable(struct dma_buf_attachment *attach)
> +{
> +	return attach->importer_ops &&
> +	       attach->importer_ops->invalidate_mappings;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(dma_buf_attach_revocable, "DMA_BUF");
> +

I noticed that Patch 5 removes the invalidate_mappings stub from 
umem_dmabuf.c, effectively making the callback NULL for an RDMA 
importer. Consequently, dma_buf_attach_revocable() (introduced here)
will return false for these importers.

Since the cover letter mentions that VFIO will use
dma_buf_attach_revocable() to prevent unbounded waits, this appears to
effectively block paths like the VFIO-export -> RDMA-import path..

Given that RDMA is a significant consumer of dma-bufs, are there plans
to implement proper revocation support in the IB/RDMA core (umem_dmabuf)? 

It would be good to know if there's a plan for bringing such importers
into compliance with the new revocation semantics so they can interop
with VFIO OR are we completely ruling out users like RDMA / IB importing
any DMABUFs exported by VFIO?

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-24 19:14 [PATCH v5 0/8] dma-buf: Use revoke mechanism to invalidate shared buffers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] dma-buf: Rename .move_notify() callback to a clearer identifier Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] dma-buf: Rename dma_buf_move_notify() to dma_buf_invalidate_mappings() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27  9:21   ` Christian König
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] dma-buf: Always build with DMABUF_MOVE_NOTIFY Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27  9:26   ` Christian König
2026-01-27  9:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 10:02       ` Christian König
2026-01-27 11:42         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 20:45           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30  7:00         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-26 20:53   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-27  8:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 16:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29  7:06         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29  7:33           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29  8:13             ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29  8:41               ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 21:04                 ` Alex Williamson
2026-01-30  3:10                 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29 14:58           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30  3:12             ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  5:43               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-30  5:48                 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  8:46             ` Christian König
2026-01-30  8:30   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 13:01     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30 13:21       ` Christian König
2026-01-30 13:31         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30 13:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 14:11           ` Christian König
2026-01-30 14:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-02  8:42               ` Christian König
2026-02-02 15:12                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-02 15:21                   ` Christian König
2026-02-02 15:55                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] dma-buf: Make .invalidate_mapping() truly optional Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30  8:30   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 12:55     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_attach_revocable() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-26 20:38   ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-01-26 21:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30  8:43   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 14:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] vfio: Permit VFIO to work with pinned importers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 21:04   ` Alex Williamson
2026-01-30  3:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] iommufd: Add dma_buf_pin() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29  7:08   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  0:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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