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From: Shashank Balaji <shashank.mahadasyam@sony.com>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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	Tim Bird <tim.bird@sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/virt: rename x2apic_available to x2apic_without_ir_available
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 18:23:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYWzKQQTyTZpMAme@JPC00244420> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab7f5935-fd5e-4ba5-a97d-5433f241a089@intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2026 at 04:10:37PM -0800, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> On 2/2/2026 1:51 AM, Shashank Balaji wrote:
> > No functional change.
> > 
> > x86_init.hyper.x2apic_available is used only in try_to_enable_x2apic to check if
> > x2apic needs to be disabled if interrupt remapping support isn't present. But
> > the name x2apic_available doesn't reflect that usage.
> > 
> 
> I don't understand the premise of this patch. Shouldn't the variable
> name reflect what is stored rather than how it is used?

Sorry about the confusion, I should have used '()'.
x86_init.hyper.x2apic_available() is called only in
try_to_enable_x2apic(). Here's the relevant snippet:

	static __init void try_to_enable_x2apic(int remap_mode)
	{
		if (x2apic_state == X2APIC_DISABLED)
			return;

		if (remap_mode != IRQ_REMAP_X2APIC_MODE) {
			u32 apic_limit = 255;

			/*
			 * Using X2APIC without IR is not architecturally supported
			 * on bare metal but may be supported in guests.
			 */
			if (!x86_init.hyper.x2apic_available()) {
				pr_info("x2apic: IRQ remapping doesn't support X2APIC mode\n");
				x2apic_disable();
				return;
			}

So the question being asked is, "can x2apic be used without IR?", but
the name "x2apic_available" signals "is x2apic available?". I found this
confusing while going through the source.

Most hypervisors set their x2apic_available() implementation to
essentially return if the CPU supports x2apic or not, which is valid
given the name "x2apic_available", but x2apic availability is not what's in
question at the callsite.

> > This is what x2apic_available is set to for various hypervisors:
> > 
> > 	acrn		boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_X2APIC)
> > 	mshyperv	boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_X2APIC)
> > 	xen		boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_X2APIC) or false
> > 	vmware		vmware_legacy_x2apic_available
> > 	kvm		kvm_cpuid_base() != 0
> > 	jailhouse	x2apic_enabled()
> > 	bhyve		true
> > 	default		false
> > 
> 
> If both interrupt remapping and x2apic are enabled, what would the name
> x2apic_without_ir_available signify?

If IR is enabled, then the branch to call x2apic_available() wouldn't be taken :)
So the meaning of x2apic_without_ir_available wouldn't be relevant
anymore.

> A value of "true" would mean x2apic is available without IR. But that
> would be inaccurate for most hypervisors. A value of "false" could be
> interpreted as x2apic is not available, which is also inaccurate.
> 
> To me, x2apic_available makes more sense than
> x2apic_without_ir_available based on the values being set by the
> hypervisors.
 
I agree with you, and I think therein lies the problem. Most hypervisors
are answering the broader question "is x2apic available?", so the name
"x2apic_available" makes sense.

I think further work is required to check if various implementations of
x2apic_available() also need to be changed to reflect the "x2apic
without IR?" semantic, but I don't know enough to do that myself. Maybe
I should have added TODOs above the implementations.

I would like the feedback of the virt folks too on all this, maybe I'm
misinterpreting what's going on here.

> > Bare metal and vmware correctly check if x2apic is available without interrupt
> > remapping. The rest of them check if x2apic is enabled/supported, and kvm just
> > checks if the kernel is running on kvm. The other hypervisors may have to have
> > their checks audited.
> > 
> AFAIU, the value on bare metal is set to false because this is a
> hypervisor specific variable. Perhaps I have misunderstood something?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-06  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-02  9:51 [PATCH 0/3] x86/x2apic: Fix hang-up of defconfig kernel on resume from s2ram Shashank Balaji
2026-02-02  9:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/x2apic: disable x2apic on resume if the kernel expects so Shashank Balaji
2026-02-02 15:02   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-02 22:31   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-03  0:24     ` Shashank Balaji
2026-02-03 21:08   ` Sohil Mehta
2026-02-04  9:17     ` Shashank Balaji
2026-02-04 18:53       ` Sohil Mehta
2026-02-05  6:07         ` Shashank Balaji
2026-02-05 23:18           ` Sohil Mehta
2026-02-06  3:44             ` Shashank Balaji
2026-02-06  8:57             ` Shashank Balaji
2026-02-07  0:37               ` Sohil Mehta
2026-02-02  9:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/defconfig: add CONFIG_IRQ_REMAP Shashank Balaji
2026-02-02 11:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2026-02-02 11:54     ` Jan Kiszka
2026-02-02 12:12       ` Andrew Cooper
2026-02-02 13:50         ` Jan Kiszka
2026-02-02  9:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/virt: rename x2apic_available to x2apic_without_ir_available Shashank Balaji
2026-02-06  0:10   ` Sohil Mehta
2026-02-06  9:23     ` Shashank Balaji [this message]
2026-02-13  7:39   ` Shashank Balaji

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