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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, elic@nvidia.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:26:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <babc654d-8dcd-d8a2-c3b6-d20cc4fc554c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210224021222-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


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On 2021/2/24 3:17 下午, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 02:53:08PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2021/2/24 2:46 下午, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 02:04:36PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2021/2/24 1:04 下午, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:35:57AM -0800, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/23/2021 5:26 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 10:03:57AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021/2/23 9:12 上午, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/21/2021 11:34 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:14:17PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021/2/19 7:54 下午, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commit 452639a64ad8 ("vdpa: make sure set_features is invoked
>>>>>>>>>>>> for legacy") made an exception for legacy guests to reset
>>>>>>>>>>>> features to 0, when config space is accessed before features
>>>>>>>>>>>> are set. We should relieve the verify_min_features() check
>>>>>>>>>>>> and allow features reset to 0 for this case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's worth noting that not just legacy guests could access
>>>>>>>>>>>> config space before features are set. For instance, when
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is advertised some modern driver
>>>>>>>>>>>> will try to access and validate the MTU present in the config
>>>>>>>>>>>> space before virtio features are set.
>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like a spec violation:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
>>>>>>>>>>> VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is
>>>>>>>>>>> set.
>>>>>>>>>>> This field specifies the maximum MTU for the driver to use.
>>>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do we really want to workaround this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> And also:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Reset the device.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the
>>>>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits
>>>>>>>>>> understood by the OS and driver to the
>>>>>>>>>> device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write)
>>>>>>>>>> the device-specific configuration
>>>>>>>>>> fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new
>>>>>>>>>> feature bits after this step.
>>>>>>>>>> 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set:
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise, the device does not
>>>>>>>>>> support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
>>>>>>>>>> 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues
>>>>>>>>>> for the device, optional per-bus setup,
>>>>>>>>>> reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration
>>>>>>>>>> space, and population of virtqueues.
>>>>>>>>>> 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so accessing config space before FEATURES_OK is a spec violation, right?
>>>>>>>>> It is, but it's not relevant to what this commit tries to address. I
>>>>>>>>> thought the legacy guest still needs to be supported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having said, a separate patch has to be posted to fix the guest driver
>>>>>>>>> issue where this discrepancy is introduced to virtnet_validate() (since
>>>>>>>>> commit fe36cbe067). But it's not technically related to this patch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Siwei
>>>>>>>> I think it's a bug to read config space in validate, we should move it to
>>>>>>>> virtnet_probe().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> I take it back, reading but not writing seems to be explicitly allowed by spec.
>>>>>>> So our way to detect a legacy guest is bogus, need to think what is
>>>>>>> the best way to handle this.
>>>>>> Then maybe revert commit fe36cbe067 and friends, and have QEMU detect legacy
>>>>>> guest? Supposedly only config space write access needs to be guarded before
>>>>>> setting FEATURES_OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Siwie
>>>>> Detecting it isn't enough though, we will need a new ioctl to notify
>>>>> the kernel that it's a legacy guest. Ugh:(
>>>> I'm not sure I get this, how can we know if there's a legacy driver before
>>>> set_features()?
>>> qemu knows for sure. It does not communicate this information to the
>>> kernel right now unfortunately.
>> I may miss something, but I still don't get how the new ioctl is supposed to
>> work.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Basically on first guest access QEMU would tell kernel whether
> guest is using the legacy or the modern interface.
> E.g. virtio_pci_config_read/virtio_pci_config_write will call ioctl(ENABLE_LEGACY, 1)
> while virtio_pci_common_read will call ioctl(ENABLE_LEGACY, 0)


But this trick work only for PCI I think?

Thanks


>
> Or maybe we just add GET_CONFIG_MODERN and GET_CONFIG_LEGACY and
> call the correct ioctl ... there are many ways to build this API.
>

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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-19 11:54 [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero Si-Wei Liu
     [not found] ` <20210221144437.GA82010@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-02-21 21:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <20210222060526.GA110862@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-02-23  9:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23  9:48         ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23  9:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-22  4:14 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-22  7:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23  1:12     ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-23  2:03       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 13:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 19:35           ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-24  3:20             ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  5:17               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  6:02                 ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                 ` <20210224064520.GA204317@mtl-vdi-166.wap.labs.mlnx>
2021-02-24  6:47                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  6:55                     ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  7:12                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  5:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  6:04               ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  6:46                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  6:53                   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  7:17                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  8:26                       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-02-24  8:43                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24  9:30                           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-28 21:30                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01  3:53                               ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 18:24               ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-26  0:35                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-26  0:56                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-28 21:27                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01 18:08                     ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-28 21:28                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-28 21:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01  3:56                   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02  9:47                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-02 10:53                       ` Jason Wang
2021-12-11  1:44                         ` vdpa legacy guest support (was Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero) Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-12  9:26                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-13  3:02                             ` Jason Wang
2021-12-13  8:06                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-13  8:57                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-13 10:42                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-14  1:13                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-14  1:59                             ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-14  3:01                               ` Jason Wang
2021-12-14  5:06                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-15  1:05                                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-15  2:06                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-12-15 20:52                                     ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-15 21:33                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-16  2:01                                         ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-16  2:53                                           ` Jason Wang
2021-12-16 22:32                                             ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-17  1:57                                               ` Jason Wang
2021-12-17  2:00                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-17  2:15                                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-12-16  6:35                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-16  3:43                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-12-17  1:08                                         ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-17  2:01                                           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-22 17:09   ` [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-23  2:03     ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23  9:25     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23  9:46       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 10:17           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:04         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-02-23 10:31           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:58             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-24  9:29               ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 11:12                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-25 13:26                     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25 18:53                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-26  8:19                       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-28 21:25                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01  3:51                           ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02 12:08                             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-03  4:01                               ` Jason Wang
2021-03-03  8:29                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-04  8:24                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-04 13:50                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-05  3:01                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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