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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Gautam Dawar <gautam.dawar@xilinx.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, davem <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] virtio-net: add cond_resched() to the command waiting loop
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 13:58:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8cd9a2e-3480-6ca5-96fa-4b5bd2c1174a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220908011858-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


在 2022/9/8 13:19, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 10:21:45AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> 在 2022/9/7 15:46, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
>>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Paolo Abeni wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2022-09-07 at 10:09 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 6:56 PM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2022-09-05 at 15:49 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 3:15 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 12:53:41PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Adding cond_resched() to the command waiting loop for a better
>>>>>>>>> co-operation with the scheduler. This allows to give CPU a breath to
>>>>>>>>> run other task(workqueue) instead of busy looping when preemption is
>>>>>>>>> not allowed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more important. This is a must for some vDPA parent to work
>>>>>>>>> since control virtqueue is emulated via a workqueue for those parents.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fixes: bda324fd037a ("vdpasim: control virtqueue support")
>>>>>>>> That's a weird commit to fix. so it fixes the simulator?
>>>>>>> Yes, since the simulator is using a workqueue to handle control virtueue.
>>>>>> Uhmm... touching a driver for a simulator's sake looks a little weird.
>>>>> Simulator is not the only one that is using a workqueue (but should be
>>>>> the first).
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see  that the mlx5 vDPA driver is using a workqueue as well (see
>>>>> mlx5_vdpa_kick_vq()).
>>>>>
>>>>> And in the case of VDUSE, it needs to wait for the response from the
>>>>> userspace, this means cond_resched() is probably a must for the case
>>>>> like UP.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, if the bug is vdpasim, I think it's better to try to
>>>>>> solve it there, if possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at vdpasim_net_work() and vdpasim_blk_work() it looks like
>>>>>> neither needs a process context, so perhaps you could rework it to run
>>>>>> the work_fn() directly from vdpasim_kick_vq(), at least for the control
>>>>>> virtqueue?
>>>>> It's possible (but require some rework on the simulator core). But
>>>>> considering we have other similar use cases, it looks better to solve
>>>>> it in the virtio-net driver.
>>>> I see.
>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, this may have better behaviour when using for the buggy
>>>>> hardware (e.g the control virtqueue takes too long to respond). We may
>>>>> consider switching to use interrupt/sleep in the future (but not
>>>>> suitable for -net).
>>>> Agreed. Possibly a timeout could be useful, too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Paolo
>>> Hmm timeouts are kind of arbitrary.
>>> regular drivers basically derive them from hardware
>>> behaviour but with a generic driver like virtio it's harder.
>>> I guess we could add timeout as a config field, have
>>> device make a promise to the driver.
>>>
>>> Making the wait interruptible seems more reasonable.
>>
>> Yes, but I think we still need this patch for -net and -stable.
>>
>> Thanks
> I was referring to Paolo's idea of having a timeout.


Ok, I think we're fine with this patch. Any chance to merge this or do I 
need to resend?

Thanks


>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-09  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-05  4:53 [PATCH net] virtio-net: add cond_resched() to the command waiting loop Jason Wang
2022-09-05  7:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-09-05  7:49   ` Jason Wang
2022-09-06 10:55     ` Paolo Abeni
2022-09-07  2:09       ` Jason Wang
2022-09-07  7:07         ` Paolo Abeni
2022-09-07  7:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-09-08  2:21             ` Jason Wang
2022-09-08  5:19               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-10-09  5:58                 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2022-10-10 17:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-10-12  3:19                     ` Jason Wang
2022-10-17  7:15                       ` Jason Wang
2022-10-17 20:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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