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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
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	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
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	"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	"Chia-I Wu" <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Lucas De Marchi" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
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	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/8] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 09:42:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c976c33c-4fa7-4350-8dcc-a5c218d1b0d6@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260130144415.GE2328995@ziepe.ca>

On 1/30/26 15:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 03:11:48PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> On 1/30/26 14:56, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 02:21:08PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would work for me.
>>>>
>>>> Question is if you really want to do it this way? See usually
>>>> exporters try to avoid blocking such functions.
>>>
>>> Yes, it has to be this way, revoke is a synchronous user space
>>> triggered operation around things like FLR or device close. We can't
>>> defer it into some background operation like pm.
>>
>> Yeah, but you only need that in a couple of use cases and not all.
> 
> Not all, that is why the dma_buf_attach_revocable() is there to
> distinguish this case from others.

No, no that's not what I mean.

See on the one hand you have runtime PM which automatically shuts down your device after some time when the last user stops using it.

Then on the other hand you have an intentional revoke triggered by userspace.

As far as I've read up on the code currently both are handled the same way, and that doesn't sound correct to me.

Runtime PM should *not* trigger automatically when there are still mappings or even DMA-bufs in existence for the VFIO device.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-24 19:14 [PATCH v5 0/8] dma-buf: Use revoke mechanism to invalidate shared buffers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] dma-buf: Rename .move_notify() callback to a clearer identifier Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] dma-buf: Rename dma_buf_move_notify() to dma_buf_invalidate_mappings() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27  9:21   ` Christian König
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] dma-buf: Always build with DMABUF_MOVE_NOTIFY Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27  9:26   ` Christian König
2026-01-27  9:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 10:02       ` Christian König
2026-01-27 11:42         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 20:45           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30  7:00         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-26 20:53   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-27  8:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-27 16:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29  7:06         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29  7:33           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29  8:13             ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29  8:41               ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 21:04                 ` Alex Williamson
2026-01-30  3:10                 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-29 14:58           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30  3:12             ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  5:43               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-30  5:48                 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  8:46             ` Christian König
2026-01-30  8:30   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 13:01     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30 13:21       ` Christian König
2026-01-30 13:31         ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30 13:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 14:11           ` Christian König
2026-01-30 14:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-02  8:42               ` Christian König [this message]
2026-02-02 15:12                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-02 15:21                   ` Christian König
2026-02-02 15:55                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] dma-buf: Make .invalidate_mapping() truly optional Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-30  8:30   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 12:55     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_attach_revocable() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-26 20:38   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-26 21:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30  8:43   ` Christian König
2026-01-30 14:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] vfio: Permit VFIO to work with pinned importers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 21:04   ` Alex Williamson
2026-01-30  3:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] iommufd: Add dma_buf_pin() Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29  7:08   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-30  0:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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