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From: "JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	matthew.brost@intel.com, mst@redhat.com, rppt@kernel.org,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,
	rakie.kim@sk.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
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	xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, yuanchu@google.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/mempolicy: track page allocations per mempolicy
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 23:14:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd3d7e2c-79fa-4c00-89ad-83beddf98bae@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874imkpba1.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>

On 3/12/26 10:07 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
> "JP Kobryn (Meta)" <jp.kobryn@linux.dev> writes:
> 
>> On 3/12/26 6:40 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>> On 3/7/26 05:55, JP Kobryn (Meta) wrote:
>>>> When investigating pressure on a NUMA node, there is no straightforward way
>>>> to determine which policies are driving allocations to it.
>>>>
>>>> Add per-policy page allocation counters as new node stat items. These
>>>> counters track allocations to nodes and also whether the allocations were
>>>> intentional or fallbacks.
>>>>
>>>> The new stats follow the existing numa hit/miss/foreign style and have the
>>>> following meanings:
>>>>
>>>>     hit
>>>>       - for BIND and PREFERRED_MANY, allocation succeeded on node in nodemask
>>>>       - for other policies, allocation succeeded on intended node
>>>>       - counted on the node of the allocation
>>>>     miss
>>>>       - allocation intended for other node, but happened on this one
>>>>       - counted on other node
>>>>     foreign
>>>>       - allocation intended on this node, but happened on other node
>>>>       - counted on this node
>>>>
>>>> Counters are exposed per-memcg, per-node in memory.numa_stat and globally
>>>> in /proc/vmstat.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: JP Kobryn (Meta) <jp.kobryn@linux.dev>
>>> I think I've been on of the folks on previous versions arguing
>>> against the
>>> many counters, and one of the arguments was it they can't tell the full
>>> story anyway (compared to e.g. tracing), but I don't think adding even more
>>> counters is the right solution. Seems like a number of other people
>>> responding to the thread are providing similar feedback.
>>> For example I'm still not sure how it would help me if I knew the
>>> hits/misses were due to a preferred vs preferred_many policy, or interleave
>>> vs weithed interleave?
>>>
>>
>> How about I change from per-policy hit/miss/foreign triplets to a single
>> aggregated policy triplet (i.e. just 3 new counters which account for
>> all policies)? They would follow the same hit/miss/foreign semantics
>> already proposed (visible in quoted text above). This would still
>> provide the otherwise missing signal of whether policy-driven
>> allocations to a node are intentional or fallback.
>>
>> Note that I am also planning on moving the stats off of the memcg so the
>> 3 new counters will be global per-node in response to similar feedback.
> 
> Emm, what's the difference between these newly added counters and the
> existing numa_hit/miss/foreign counters?

The existing counters don't account for node masks in the policies that
make use of them. An allocation can land on a node in the mask and still
be considered a miss because it wasn't the preferred node.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-07  4:55 [PATCH v2] mm/mempolicy: track page allocations per mempolicy JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-07 12:27 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-08 19:20   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-09  4:11     ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-09  4:31   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-11  2:56     ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-11 17:31       ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-07 14:32 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-07 19:57 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-08 19:24 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-09  3:30   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-11 18:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-09 23:35 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-09 23:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-10  4:17   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-10 14:53     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-10 17:01       ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-12 13:40 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-12 16:13   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-13  5:07     ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-13  6:14       ` JP Kobryn (Meta) [this message]
2026-03-13  7:34         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-13  9:31           ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-13 18:28             ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-13 18:09           ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-16  2:54             ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-17  4:37               ` JP Kobryn (Meta)
2026-03-17  6:44                 ` Huang, Ying
2026-03-17 11:10                   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-17 17:55                   ` JP Kobryn (Meta)

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