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From: Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Peter-Jan Gootzen <pgootzen@nvidia.com>,
	"vgoyal@redhat.com" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"miklos@szeredi.hu" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux.dev" <virtualization@lists.linux.dev>
Cc: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>, Yoray Zack <yorayz@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] virtio-fs: limit number of request queues
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 17:13:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfcaeedc-e375-4024-8abd-8a88aa4e4014@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91722cfc27ff57a0963d4f55f5ac241a5e407f84.camel@nvidia.com>



On 5/28/24 5:05 PM, Peter-Jan Gootzen wrote:
> Hi Jingbo,
> 
> On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 16:40 +0800, Jingbo Xu wrote:
>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>>
>>
>> Hi Peter-Jan,
>>
>> Thanks for the amazing work! Glad to see it is upstreamed.  We are
>> also
>> planning distribute virtiofs on DPU.
> Great to hear that virtio-fs is getting more attention with this
> powerful approach :)
> 
>>
>> BTW I have some questions when reading the patch, appreciate if you
>> could give a hint.
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/24 11:38 PM, Peter-Jan Gootzen wrote:
>>> Virtio-fs devices might allocate significant resources to virtio
>>> queues
>>> such as CPU cores that busy poll on the queue. The device indicates
>>> how
>>> many request queues it can support and the driver should initialize
>>> the
>>> number of queues that they want to utilize.
>>
>> I'm okay with truncating the num_request_queues to nr_cpu_ids if the
>> number of the available queues exceeds nr_cpu_ids, as generally 1:1
>> mapping between cpus and queues is enough and we can not make use more
>> queues in this case.
>>
>> I just don't understand the above commit message as how this relates
>> to
>> the resource footprint at the device side.  When the the number of the
>> queues actually used by the driver (e.g. nr_cpu_ids is 6) is less than
>> the amount (e.g. 8) that is advertised by the driver, will the device
>> side reclaim the resources allocated for the remaining unused queues?
>> The driver has no way notifying how many queues it actually utilizes.
> 
> The device resources allocated to queues is device implementation
> specific. So the cost of the driver creating more queues than it will
> ultimately use, is dependent on how the specific device handles these
> unsused queues.
> A smart device could at some point decide to spend less polling
> resources on a queue if it sees that it is unused (reclaiming the
> resources as you put it).
> 
> But in my opinion, the driver should not allocate more than it will use.
> The new scheme tries to map every core to a queue, so we know that we
> will not use >nr_cpu_ids queues.


Okay got it.  Many thanks for the reply.


-- 
Thanks,
Jingbo

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-28  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01 15:38 [PATCH 0/2] virtio-fs: introduce multi-queue support Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtio-fs: limit number of request queues Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-06 19:10   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-05-28  8:40   ` Jingbo Xu
2024-05-28  9:05     ` Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-28  9:13       ` Jingbo Xu [this message]
2024-05-01 15:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio-fs: add multi-queue support Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-28  8:51   ` Jingbo Xu
2024-05-28 11:59     ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-28 12:39       ` Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-28 13:22         ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-28 13:35       ` Jingbo Xu
2024-05-28 14:21         ` Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-29  1:52           ` Jingbo Xu
2024-05-29  9:27             ` Peter-Jan Gootzen
2024-05-06 19:52 ` [PATCH 0/2] virtio-fs: introduce " Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-05-10 11:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-10 11:41   ` Miklos Szeredi

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