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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Yongji Xie <xieyongji@bytedance.com>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <christian.brauner@canonical.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	joro@8bytes.org, "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	"Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	songmuchun@bytedance.com, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, bcrl@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mika Penttilä" <mika.penttila@nextfour.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 09/10] vduse: Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 11:34:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2334f66-907c-2e9c-ea4f-f912008e9be8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACycT3u8=_D3hCtJR+d5BgeUQMce6S7c_6P3CVfvWfYhCQeXFA@mail.gmail.com>


在 2021/6/23 下午1:50, Yongji Xie 写道:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:31 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> 在 2021/6/22 下午4:14, Yongji Xie 写道:
>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 3:50 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> 在 2021/6/22 下午3:22, Yongji Xie 写道:
>>>>>> We need fix a way to propagate the error to the userspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E.g if we want to stop the deivce, we will delay the status reset until
>>>>>> we get respose from the userspace?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't get how to delay the status reset. And should it be a DoS
>>>>> that we want to fix if the userspace doesn't give a response forever?
>>>> You're right. So let's make set_status() can fail first, then propagate
>>>> its failure via VHOST_VDPA_SET_STATUS.
>>>>
>>> OK. So we only need to propagate the failure in the vhost-vdpa case, right?
>>
>> I think not, we need to deal with the reset for virtio as well:
>>
>> E.g in register_virtio_devices(), we have:
>>
>>           /* We always start by resetting the device, in case a previous
>>            * driver messed it up.  This also tests that code path a
>> little. */
>>         dev->config->reset(dev);
>>
>> We probably need to make reset can fail and then fail the
>> register_virtio_device() as well.
>>
> OK, looks like virtio_add_status() and virtio_device_ready()[1] should
> be also modified if we need to propagate the failure in the
> virtio-vdpa case. Or do we only need to care about the reset case?
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210517093428.670-1-xieyongji@bytedance.com/


My understanding is DRIVER_OK is not something that needs to be validated:

"

DRIVER_OK (4)
Indicates that the driver is set up and ready to drive the device.

"

Since the spec doesn't require to re-read the and check if DRIVER_OK is 
set in 3.1.1 Driver Requirements: Device Initialization.

It's more about "telling the device that driver is ready."

But we don have some status bit that requires the synchronization with 
the device.

1) FEATURES_OK, spec requires to re-read the status bit to check whether 
or it it was set by the device:

"

Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: 
otherwise, the device does not support our subset of features and the 
device is unusable.

"

This is useful for some device which can only support a subset of the 
features. E.g a device that can only work for packed virtqueue. This 
means the current design of set_features won't work, we need either:

1a) relay the set_features request to userspace

or

1b) introduce a mandated_device_features during device creation and 
validate the driver features during the set_features(), and don't set 
FEATURES_OK if they don't match.


2) Some transports (PCI) requires to re-read the status to ensure the 
synchronization.

"

After writing 0 to device_status, the driver MUST wait for a read of 
device_status to return 0 before reinitializing the device.

"

So we need to deal with both FEATURES_OK and reset, but probably not 
DRIVER_OK.

Thanks


>
> Thanks,
> Yongji
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-24  3:35 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] ` <20210615141331.407-4-xieyongji@bytedance.com>
2021-06-17  8:33   ` [PATCH v8 03/10] eventfd: Increase the recursion depth of eventfd_signal() He Zhe
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2021-06-18  8:41       ` He Zhe
2021-06-18  8:44       ` [PATCH] eventfd: Enlarge recursion limit to allow vhost to work He Zhe
2021-07-03  8:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20210615141331.407-11-xieyongji@bytedance.com>
2021-06-24 13:01   ` [PATCH v8 10/10] Documentation: Add documentation for VDUSE Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]     ` <CACycT3uxnQmXWsgmNVxQtiRhz1UXXTAJFY3OiAJqokbJH6ifMA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-30 10:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]         ` <CACycT3taKhf1cWp3Jd0aSVekAZvpbR-_fkyPLQ=B+jZBB5H=8Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-01 13:15           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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2021-07-05  3:36               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-05 12:49                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-06  2:34                   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-06 10:14                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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     [not found]                             ` <YOVr801d01YOPzLL@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
2021-07-07  9:24                               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-07 15:54                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-08  4:17                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-08  9:06                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]                   ` <CACycT3t-BTMrpNTwBUfbvaxTh6tLthxbo3OJwMk_iuiSpMuZPg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-06 10:22                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]                       ` <CACycT3t=V-VV7LYDda8mt=QxN_Ay-N+3dgWp382TObkeei9MOg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-08  9:07                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-24 15:12 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-28 10:33 ` Liu Xiaodong
2021-06-28  4:35   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-28  5:54     ` Liu, Xiaodong
2021-06-29  4:10       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29  7:56         ` Liu, Xiaodong
2021-06-28 10:32   ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-29  4:12     ` Jason Wang
     [not found]       ` <CACycT3vVhNdhtyohKJQuMXTic5m6jDjEfjzbzvp=2FJgwup8mg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-29  7:33         ` Jason Wang
     [not found] ` <20210615141331.407-10-xieyongji@bytedance.com>
2021-06-21  9:13   ` [PATCH v8 09/10] vduse: " Jason Wang
     [not found]     ` <CACycT3tAON+-qZev+9EqyL2XbgH5HDspOqNt3ohQLQ8GqVK=EA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-22  5:06       ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-22  7:49           ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-23  3:30               ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-24  3:34                   ` Jason Wang [this message]
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2021-06-24  8:13                       ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-25  3:08                           ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-28  4:40                               ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                                 ` <CACycT3u9-id2DxPpuVLtyg4tzrUF9xCAGr7nBm=21HfUJJasaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-29  3:29                                   ` Jason Wang
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2021-06-29  4:03                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24 14:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]     ` <CACycT3vaXQ4dxC9QUzXXJs7og6TVqqVGa8uHZnTStacsYAiFwQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-30  9:51       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]         ` <CACycT3t6M5i0gznABm52v=rdmeeLZu8smXAOLg+WsM3WY1fgTw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-01  7:55           ` Jason Wang
     [not found]             ` <CACycT3v7pYXAFtijPgWCMZ2WXxjT2Y-DUwS3hN_T7dhfE5o_6g@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-02  3:25               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-07  8:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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