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From: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, mst@redhat.com, gal@nvidia.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, eperezma@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/4] vhost-vdpa: introduce IOTLB_PERSIST backend feature bit
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 15:30:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea6ecd2b-5391-3820-d3fd-411b60a5a2ec@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEuCDN7U2ANYvRa1TuhH5iR5rb2cdHVixwE_C9zgP__9GQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/14/2023 7:25 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 9:45 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Signed-off-by: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/vhost/vdpa.c             | 16 +++++++++++++++-
>>   include/uapi/linux/vhost_types.h |  2 ++
>>   2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/vhost/vdpa.c b/drivers/vhost/vdpa.c
>> index 62b0a01..75092a7 100644
>> --- a/drivers/vhost/vdpa.c
>> +++ b/drivers/vhost/vdpa.c
>> @@ -406,6 +406,14 @@ static bool vhost_vdpa_can_resume(const struct vhost_vdpa *v)
>>          return ops->resume;
>>   }
>>
>> +static bool vhost_vdpa_has_persistent_map(const struct vhost_vdpa *v)
>> +{
>> +       struct vdpa_device *vdpa = v->vdpa;
>> +       const struct vdpa_config_ops *ops = vdpa->config;
>> +
>> +       return (!ops->set_map && !ops->dma_map) || ops->reset_map;
> So this means the IOTLB/IOMMU mappings have already been decoupled
> from the vdpa reset.
Not in the sense of API, it' been coupled since day one from the 
implementations of every on-chip IOMMU parent driver, namely mlx5_vdpa 
and vdpa_sim. Because of that, later on the (improper) support for 
virtio-vdpa, from commit 6f5312f80183 ("vdpa/mlx5: Add support for 
running with virtio_vdpa") and 6c3d329e6486 ("vdpa_sim: get rid of DMA 
ops") misused the .reset() op to realize 1:1 mapping, rendering strong 
coupling between device reset and reset of iotlb mappings. This series 
try to rectify that implementation deficiency, while keep userspace 
continuing to work with older kernel behavior.

>   So it should have been noticed by the userspace.
Yes, userspace had noticed this no-chip IOMMU discrepancy since day one 
I suppose. Unfortunately there's already code in userspace with this 
assumption in mind that proactively tears down and sets up iotlb mapping 
around vdpa device reset...
> I guess we can just fix the simulator and mlx5 then we are fine?
Only IF we don't care about running new QEMU on older kernels with 
flawed on-chip iommu behavior around reset. But that's a big IF...

Regards,
-Siwei
>
> Thanks
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02 17:12 [PATCH 0/2] vdpa/mlx5: Fixes for ASID handling Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-02 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] vdpa/mlx5: Fix mr->initialized semantics Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-03  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-03 11:40     ` Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-08  2:57       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  7:24         ` Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-09  1:42           ` Jason Wang
2023-08-14 14:15             ` Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-15  1:28               ` Jason Wang
2023-08-03 17:57     ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-08  3:00       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08 22:58         ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-09  6:52           ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10  0:40             ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-10  3:10               ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10 22:20                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-14  2:59                   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15  1:43                     ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] vdpa: decouple reset of iotlb mapping from device reset Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  1:43                       ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] vdpa: introduce .reset_map operation callback Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  2:21                         ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 19:49                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-16  1:55                             ` Jason Wang
2023-08-17  0:05                               ` Si-Wei Liu
     [not found]                                 ` <CAJaqyWeC=G7fbgvmyCicnuGLYD84G5+b37tVA1KqzrSHO_AGDw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-08-21 22:31                                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  1:43                       ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] vdpa/mlx5: implement .reset_map driver op Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  8:26                         ` Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-15 23:11                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  1:43                       ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] vhost-vdpa: should restore 1:1 dma mapping before detaching driver Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  2:32                         ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 23:09                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  1:43                       ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] vhost-vdpa: introduce IOTLB_PERSIST backend feature bit Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-15  2:25                         ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 22:30                           ` Si-Wei Liu [this message]
2023-08-16  1:48                             ` Jason Wang
2023-08-16 23:43                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-22  8:54                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-28 23:46                                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-08-02 17:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] vdpa/mlx5: Delete control vq iotlb in destroy_mr only when necessary Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization
2023-08-10  8:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] vdpa/mlx5: Fixes for ASID handling Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10  8:59   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10  9:04   ` Dragos Tatulea via Virtualization

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