From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/28] i386: map enough initial memory to create lowmem mappings
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:31:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1vefnvvyb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462CE69E.8040207@goop.org> (Jeremy Fitzhardinge's message of "Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:02:22 -0700")
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> writes:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Since we allocate the maximum possible memory statically, I fail to
>> see how holes could make the situation any worse, or better.
>
> No, we map enough space to map 4G (~4 pages), but we don't actually map
> 4G. If a hole happened to start within that 4 page mapping, then the
> memory still wouldn't be available for allocation.
>
> I think this is a bit of a spurious argument though, since if it were
> really a problem we'd have to worry about holes hitting the kernel image
> too. As far as I can see, that's not considered to be a problem.
- holes hitting the kernel image is not something we can do anything about.
- I have always believed we need to export enough information so the
bootloader can verify that we don't hit a hole in the initial
kernel image.
- I know of one system that had BIOS tables at 16MB I believe (and
thus had a fairly low hole).
- Given that we are actually increasing (not decreasing) the number of
scenarios where we boot the kernel it probably makes sense to be
as robust as we can.
- If we support putting the ramdisk immediately after the kernel image
in memory we will actually hit this case in practice.
> I think the real point is that there's currently a subtle dependency
> between head.S and bootmem allocation which happens between start_kernel
> and pagetable_init. Your patch preventing over-mapping should make them
> easier to smoke out as it currently stands, but eliminating the problem
> by making alloc_bootmem create the mappings for itself does have
> appeal. There would still be the dependency on head.S to map the kernel
> itself and the bootmem allocator bitmap.
Agreed. However that is essentially all statically allocated memory
and the best we can do at this point in time.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-23 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-14 20:41 [PATCH 00/28] Updates for firstfloor paravirt-ops patches Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:41 ` [PATCH 01/28] revert account-for-module-percpu-space-separately-from-kernel-percpu Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:41 ` [PATCH 02/28] Account for module percpu space separately from kernel percpu Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:41 ` [PATCH 03/28] fix allow-percpu-variables-to-be-page-aligned.patch Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:41 ` [PATCH 04/28] deflate stack usage in lib/inflate.c Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:41 ` [PATCH 05/28] Page-align the GDT Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 06/28] Convert PDA into the percpu section Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 07/28] cleanups to help using per-cpu variables from asm Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 08/28] Define per_cpu_offset Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 09/28] Fix UP gdt bugs Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 10/28] i386: map enough initial memory to create lowmem mappings Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-15 9:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-15 10:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-19 20:47 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-19 20:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-19 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-19 21:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-19 21:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-19 21:22 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-19 21:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 9:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 16:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-23 16:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 16:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-23 17:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 17:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-23 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:31 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-23 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-23 17:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:54 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-23 17:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 18:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 19:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-23 19:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-23 19:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-25 20:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-25 21:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-25 22:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-25 22:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-25 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-25 22:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-25 23:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-25 23:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-26 0:33 ` Chris Wright
2007-04-26 0:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-29 16:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-29 16:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 11/28] x86: incremental update for i386 and x86-64 check_bugs Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 12/28] i386: now its ok to use identify_boot_cpu Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 13/28] paravirt: flush lazy mmu updates on kunmap_atomic Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 14/28] fix paravirt-documentation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 15/28] In compat mode, the return value here was uninitialized Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 16/28] kRemove a warning about unused variable in !CONFIG_ACPI compilation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 17/28] x86: cleanup arch/i386/kernel/cpu/mcheck/p4.c Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 18/28] Copying of the pgd range must happen under the pgd_lock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 19/28] Dont implement native_kmap_atomic_pte for !HIGHPTE Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 20/28] Now that the VDSO can be relocated, we can support it in VMI configurations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 21/28] Implement vmi_kmap_atomic_pte Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 22/28] Convert VMI timer to use clock events Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 23/28] Fix BusLogic to stop using check_region Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 24/28] paravirt: drop unused ptep_get_and_clear Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 25/28] From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 26/28] From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 27/28] paravirt: little compile fixes for vmi.c Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-14 20:42 ` [PATCH 28/28] Add a sched_clock paravirt_op Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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