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* [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in United States (US)
@ 2022-04-18  5:15 Dennis Bland
  2022-04-19 19:59 ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dennis Bland @ 2022-04-18  5:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: wireless-regdb

It seems there was an earlier request on another forum to add the 6
GHz band for country code US:

https://lkml.kernel.org/linux-wireless/Yb0HabN+Js2iWnOH@ubuntu-x1/T/#t

Not sure if a variation of this patch was already applied?  If not, I
can take a look.

Best regards,

Dennis Bland

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in United States (US)
  2022-04-18  5:15 [wireless-regdb] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in United States (US) Dennis Bland
@ 2022-04-19 19:59 ` Seth Forshee
  2022-04-21  2:56   ` [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] " Dennis Bland
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Seth Forshee @ 2022-04-19 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dennis Bland; +Cc: wireless-regdb

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 11:15:55PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> It seems there was an earlier request on another forum to add the 6
> GHz band for country code US:
> 
> https://lkml.kernel.org/linux-wireless/Yb0HabN+Js2iWnOH@ubuntu-x1/T/#t
> 
> Not sure if a variation of this patch was already applied?  If not, I
> can take a look.

Nope, nothing was ever applied. Patches welcome :)

Thanks,
Seth

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in United States (US)
  2022-04-19 19:59 ` Seth Forshee
@ 2022-04-21  2:56   ` Dennis Bland
  2022-05-11 14:40     ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dennis Bland @ 2022-04-21  2:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Seth Forshee; +Cc: wireless-regdb

With the 6 GHz band (U-NII-5, U-NII-6, U-NII-7, U-NII-8) in USA, the FCC
introduces the concept of a fixed PSD (Power Spectral Density) for all
supported 6 GHz channel widths for LPI (Low Power Indoor) environments.
Wider channel widths have a higher noise floor, therefore specifying a
fixed PSD allows wider channels to operate at a higher EIRP to maintain
the same S/N ratio as smaller channel widths.

While the 6 GHz specification also allows a "Standard" power mode with
higher EIRP and PSD limits, these devices are also required to employ
AFC (Automatic Frequency Coordination) which normally requires GNSS.
Currently there is no way to specify different EIRP and PSD levels for
APC and non-APC devices.  Therefore, only LPI mode is considered here.

LPI requires non-client (AP) devices to have a maximum PSD of 5 dBm/MHz
and a maximum EIRP of 30 dBm.  LPI requires client (STA) devices to have
a maximum PSD of -1 dBm/MHz.  The maximum channel width is 320 MHz.

The following equation is used to calculate the EIRP from the PSD and
channel width:

EIRP = PSD + 10*log(channel width in MHz)

Using the maximum PSD values of 5 and -1 for APs and STAs respectively,
the EIRP in dBm for a given channel width can be calculated:

Channel Width (MHz)     AP            STA
------------------------------------------------
20                      18            12
40                      21            15
80                      24            18
160                     27            21
320                     31 (max 30)   25 (max 24)

For channel widths up to 160 MHz, the maximum PSD is the limiting factor.
For the 320 MHz channel width, the maximum EIRP is the limiting factor.

Unfortunately, because there is currently no mechanism to specify
different power levels for AP and STA modes, and for different channel
widths, the smallest value has to be selected, which is 12 dBm.  This
will likely cause connectivity problems with larger channel widths until
these additional parameters can be added.

6 GHz operation on oil platforms, vehicles, boats, trains, and drones is
prohibited except on commercial aircraft above 10,000 feet altitude.
An IR (Initiate Radiation) restriction is mentioned in the 6 GHz
specification.

signed-off-by: Dennis Bland <dennis@dbperformance.com>
---

diff -up a/db.txt b/db.txt
--- a/db.txt 2022-04-08 09:54:37.000000000 -0600
+++ b/db.txt 2022-04-20 19:02:17.000000000 -0600
@@ -1647,6 +1647,9 @@ country US: DFS-FCC
        # https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/03/2021-08802/use-of-the-5850-5925-ghz-band
        # max. 33 dBm AP @ 20MHz, 36 dBm AP @ 40Mhz+, 6 dB less for clients
        (5850 - 5895 @ 40), (27), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, NO-IR
+      # 6g band
+       # https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/05/26/2020-11236/unlicensed-use-of-the-6ghz-band
+       (5925 - 7125 @ 320), (12), NO-OUTDOOR, NO-IR
        # 60g band
        # reference: section IV-D
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-16-89A1.pdf
        # channels 1-6 EIRP=40dBm(43dBm peak)


On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 1:59 PM Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 11:15:55PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> > It seems there was an earlier request on another forum to add the 6
> > GHz band for country code US:
> >
> > https://lkml.kernel.org/linux-wireless/Yb0HabN+Js2iWnOH@ubuntu-x1/T/#t
> >
> > Not sure if a variation of this patch was already applied?  If not, I
> > can take a look.
>
> Nope, nothing was ever applied. Patches welcome :)
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

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* Re: [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] Regulatory update for 6 GHz operation in United States (US)
  2022-04-21  2:56   ` [wireless-regdb] [PATCH] " Dennis Bland
@ 2022-05-11 14:40     ` Seth Forshee
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Seth Forshee @ 2022-05-11 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dennis Bland; +Cc: wireless-regdb

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 08:56:38PM -0600, Dennis Bland wrote:
> With the 6 GHz band (U-NII-5, U-NII-6, U-NII-7, U-NII-8) in USA, the FCC
> introduces the concept of a fixed PSD (Power Spectral Density) for all
> supported 6 GHz channel widths for LPI (Low Power Indoor) environments.
> Wider channel widths have a higher noise floor, therefore specifying a
> fixed PSD allows wider channels to operate at a higher EIRP to maintain
> the same S/N ratio as smaller channel widths.
> 
> While the 6 GHz specification also allows a "Standard" power mode with
> higher EIRP and PSD limits, these devices are also required to employ
> AFC (Automatic Frequency Coordination) which normally requires GNSS.
> Currently there is no way to specify different EIRP and PSD levels for
> APC and non-APC devices.  Therefore, only LPI mode is considered here.
> 
> LPI requires non-client (AP) devices to have a maximum PSD of 5 dBm/MHz
> and a maximum EIRP of 30 dBm.  LPI requires client (STA) devices to have
> a maximum PSD of -1 dBm/MHz.  The maximum channel width is 320 MHz.
> 
> The following equation is used to calculate the EIRP from the PSD and
> channel width:
> 
> EIRP = PSD + 10*log(channel width in MHz)
> 
> Using the maximum PSD values of 5 and -1 for APs and STAs respectively,
> the EIRP in dBm for a given channel width can be calculated:
> 
> Channel Width (MHz)     AP            STA
> ------------------------------------------------
> 20                      18            12
> 40                      21            15
> 80                      24            18
> 160                     27            21
> 320                     31 (max 30)   25 (max 24)
> 
> For channel widths up to 160 MHz, the maximum PSD is the limiting factor.
> For the 320 MHz channel width, the maximum EIRP is the limiting factor.
> 
> Unfortunately, because there is currently no mechanism to specify
> different power levels for AP and STA modes, and for different channel
> widths, the smallest value has to be selected, which is 12 dBm.  This
> will likely cause connectivity problems with larger channel widths until
> these additional parameters can be added.
> 
> 6 GHz operation on oil platforms, vehicles, boats, trains, and drones is
> prohibited except on commercial aircraft above 10,000 feet altitude.
> An IR (Initiate Radiation) restriction is mentioned in the 6 GHz
> specification.
> 
> signed-off-by: Dennis Bland <dennis@dbperformance.com>

Applied, with the same notes as with the other patch. Thanks!

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