From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C60CA253340; Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1791879961; cv=none; b=PaIV7dR/S+iQ5EGbuviLbFsixTztSZJlizvxA4Xq7ogrIzdNGJXWmiBIe7KsRCUS1sqtjv7mSV0FUhQkmclQmXofnFbLzVoavf8frNFJaCCRTkXk2zOZHuIZC9gJejkFYs5K8YmhEM1JCJECSKSWjzZuJiCVTovRJNdYssaDVRc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1791879961; c=relaxed/simple; bh=4+e2L81th8/ghLRy07Uxy5Ux/SPPV8yxuW+/HcC99u4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=Gt7mIBdayBAGjw/UkhL3mBqFeDiK0BzkT7TXAX3cZqlQhfp80iqh4Frv7/sSnyMfrhkv8dKYsPkKEQMtej7xsHXB6eWZ9FSCgFvAGa42mLNwJ2IBJZVPeT+DfLE4O1UjWLiykpaW6DrV1gQPdhj9JaauphPgLDTX3O2M1b7nRiE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=JIaVZUlP; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="JIaVZUlP" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C4981F000FF; Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:26:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1791879960; bh=GDHL78zpwrDmstbdLgcJ9oSfRFzRztMFHf+wlBz7JGI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=JIaVZUlPRUrJbi4zuV7K/C28jgMN/+i+L6TGxf1VCq9I3rCaSEVFmAADzHObFieAc h2ufdWjUQEwRmc5h/s/J81w9jJYmWSG46rroFNruJXYbgYeqHwsljdFkvk0c/8DWQh 5ZXo/r/NDP+OzhTDNW8PGV28kI34b59DeWRuF+rpU/IEe7uk+cUaTTEHM6MxMG7FCj Bftk62ptzMnaLShTuXN5Eftgq55DdikMJ7k7Q8TVQU8NvmpRlTw/4WDt06z6IGi7RO XMYgUCKVcXvjpOYIQoHesGbNEJvVEIee7dEryWMbcb/mzxM7Ux31KcFWF9YizCPhBo mQWy/kvqfJ7lA== Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 01:25:59 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: Randy Dunlap Cc: Sasha Levin , corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it, apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Message-ID: <202610130120.E43D236E@keescook> References: <20261009083137.3-1-sashal@kernel.org> <202610122124.08E058768D@keescook> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 10:56:59PM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On 10/12/26 9:24 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2026 at 04:31:37AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > >> The Maintainers Summit reached consensus to deprecate the Assisted-by > >> tag. Remove the documentation requiring it. > >> > >> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin > > > > Yup, it has become as redundant as specifying what editor I use. ;) > > > > Reviewed-by: Kees Cook > > and for those of us who don't know details about the discussion, > how is it redundant? No, I mean I use an LLM constantly for almost all aspects of my development work, in multiple dimensions, so if the old tag requirement held, my email body template would just put "Assisted-by: LLM" in there because at the very least, it drove the build and test stage. It was redundant in the sense of "yeah, of course I used an LLM at some point for this patch". ("This tag means nothing *from* me") > Do you assume that everyone now uses it (LLM), just as everyone > uses an editor? I don't make that assumption, but I always held the position that the tag was meaningless because it's the human wielding it that matters: they either sent a good patch or a bad patch, and if it was mangled by gmail or an LLM, it doesn't really matter. ("This tag means nothing *to* me") -Kees -- Kees Cook