From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=18.9.28.11 ARC-Seal: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; t=1792522383; b=lrNJIB2JVd1gzSc7MoySXAUSCqnfUQUPbhS8RoArApz5o5p0c+7XSwOlVVpBu2wJxyhC NhEFSi0EAAejajKMWg9lQXweXuUCr9FShXkEuIGbuIHOL8IDSQ6HA4DMHpUIqn/jycBOQ omQy1HYf94RtanHK5B6ZEICq2y5YDfzXc03pnvGW5O4AN5ur8b+V4u08zkZC4dlkNbZcC SN5ntnAAokAFKBhCfEyi/uOUGOryyRX1eLHT8il6bUgtPte4ZGA9EB07tVXpEEeYYnrwt kyg7DU1EJl1mdTf1Gj9UXRjlGUBh/F+Fg2ez49h3yOZ2tIz1k15QK8O31hJbzippFhw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1792522383; h=DMARC-Filter:Received:DKIM-Signature:Received:Date:From:To:Cc: Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; bh=UqcJbHQA0qSmJT2YyqO1y6Et2C0y7UxlUcTAd1a/UjM=; b=znZh4oCyemyAy35vKnCvkXWpkMizsPjCA43LewYIjht4AsikD3wIYetCoP2KtvOnmtw+ 9rZh41WLGn4HYYIYMSLsBEqnJnf9V7KBGece15XLCrmErWR29PBorrNup2ZRHE4yQZlVn Qm5df08UZOvcYsaWZy5B9yFyuG4wRnoEx7xYl9lMxDx9LrDJwgJsT1n9OkYufTIwEIImR p4B9HhE9Yo7X1Zk4sDHb5rZNkgnBjvmvK2CCDBLj2iT8Ju1Vo8b4Lmi/COlZhLA1djPcH 1YQlc67ZJIMHav0YIRVex9S79IHAucN+JQiqA9iCJzbhMYA0/7rNxQCUDdxWBPSCNow== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass header.from=mit.edu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu; dkim=pass header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=outgoing header.b=TlMpbqgi; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=18.9.28.11 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BC5C606A324 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2026 18:53:02 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 smtp.subspace.kernel.org 8BC5C606A324 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=outgoing header.b=TlMpbqgi Received: from macsyma.thunk.org (pool-173-48-113-115.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.113.115]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 69KIqFFS026857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 20 Oct 2026 14:52:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1792522341; bh=UqcJbHQA0qSmJT2YyqO1y6Et2C0y7UxlUcTAd1a/UjM=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TlMpbqgimb37WMdCuTZkv0eJZqZ93rom0jwcxk3r1Oz5y1H2YpIc8NNOsTvAX69P7 MNZ3CwlN6g/BnWwZ9M2omLRR2OKnU/SmQC3YM1iK6e8i+CfIwLD0hsM09b/PTdT0Ac 1Ty/ZmybQwpkYSJItQ3tQcbxUmimUE6IL3XaYFfjruzoUwLetPQf7DL649RABNx7Al GghlzMZSxZ2qPffjMZY2iHQf2yTpCBvfZVh6+x9FMYkbTbj+A/QHoej97jPbiyVWA1 PPgmSmrGTN5pspp9Dso4RytZKK0VUiSB0r4JldysDzFxlyMExxnYGB99limJO1sXy6 VkafRAbrYdLWQ== Received: by macsyma.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 3BF7221C47DC; Tue, 20 Oct 2026 14:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 14:51:15 -0400 From: "Theodore Tso" To: Joe Perches Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Jonathan Corbet , Shuah Khan , Randy Dunlap , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org, Federico Vaga , Akira Yokosawa , Carlos Bilbao , Avadhut Naik , Alex Shi , Yanteng Si , Dongliang Mu , Chen-Yu Yeh , Weijie Yuan , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Petr Pavlu Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Message-ID: References: <20261020-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v2-0-162aea473488@linuxfoundation.org> <0605a3c99b55124d1be71c9939f636e2@perches.com> X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0605a3c99b55124d1be71c9939f636e2@perches.com> On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 08:53:04AM -0500, Joe Perches wrote: > > This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus > > was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the > > intent. > > That's not actually true. > > Lkml was the default mailing list and other lists were specific to their > interests. Historical practice for decades before the change was made that plenty of patches only went to the subsystem list (e.g., linux-ext4, linux-scsi) and it was *never* intentional that LKML was supposed to be cc'ed for all patches. That didn't match historical behavior, and as far as I know no one was asking for that change. If someone managed to slip that into submitting-patches, that was either a mistake by the submitters or the people reviewing the change. - Ted