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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com,
	Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/12] xen/x86: use per-vcpu stacks for 64 bit pv domains
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:18:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <068bc63f-f79c-627c-4f48-ca8cdef166d9@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5A65EC0A02000078001A1118@suse.com>

On 22/01/18 13:50, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 22.01.18 at 13:32, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>> As a preparation for doing page table isolation in the Xen hypervisor
>> in order to mitigate "Meltdown" use dedicated stacks, GDT and TSS for
>> 64 bit PV domains mapped to the per-domain virtual area.
>>
>> The per-vcpu stacks are used for early interrupt handling only. After
>> saving the domain's registers stacks are switched back to the normal
>> per physical cpu ones in order to be able to address on-stack data
>> from other cpus e.g. while handling IPIs.
>>
>> Adding %cr3 switching between saving of the registers and switching
>> the stacks will enable the possibility to run guest code without any
>> per physical cpu mapping, i.e. avoiding the threat of a guest being
>> able to access other domains data.
>>
>> Without any further measures it will still be possible for e.g. a
>> guest's user program to read stack data of another vcpu of the same
>> domain, but this can be easily avoided by a little PV-ABI modification
>> introducing per-cpu user address spaces.
>>
>> This series is meant as a replacement for Andrew's patch series:
>> "x86: Prerequisite work for a Xen KAISER solution".
> 
> Considering in particular the two reverts, what I'm missing here
> is a clear description of the meaningful additional protection this
> approach provides over the band-aid. For context see also
> https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2018-01/msg01735.html

My approach supports mapping only the following data while the guest is
running (apart form the guest's own data, of course):

- the per-vcpu entry stacks of the domain which will contain only the
  guest's registers saved when an interrupt occurs
- the per-vcpu GDTs and TSSs of the domain
- the IDT
- the interrupt handler code (arch/x86/x86_64/[compat/]entry.S

All other hypervisor data and code can be completely hidden from the
guests.


Juergen

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-22 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-22 12:32 [PATCH RFC v2 00/12] xen/x86: use per-vcpu stacks for 64 bit pv domains Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/12] x86: cleanup processor.h Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:52   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A65ECA502000078001A111C@suse.com>
2018-01-22 14:10     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 14:25       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 14:32         ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/12] x86: don't use hypervisor stack size for dumping guest stacks Juergen Gross
2018-01-23  9:26   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A670DEF02000078001A16AF@suse.com>
2018-01-23  9:58     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23 10:11       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <5A67187C02000078001A1742@suse.com>
2018-01-23 10:19         ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/12] x86: do a revert of e871e80c38547d9faefc6604532ba3e985e65873 Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/12] x86: revert 5784de3e2067ed73efc2fe42e62831e8ae7f46c4 Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/12] x86: don't access saved user regs via rsp in trap handlers Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 14:49   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A70941B02000078001A3BF0@suse.com>
2018-01-30 16:33     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/12] x86: add a xpti command line parameter Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 15:39   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A709FDF02000078001A3C2C@suse.com>
2018-01-30 16:51     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/12] x86: allow per-domain mappings without NX bit or with specific mfn Juergen Gross
2018-01-29 17:06   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A6F62B602000078001A3810@suse.com>
2018-01-30  8:02     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-30  8:41       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-31 10:30   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/12] xen/x86: use dedicated function for tss initialization Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/12] x86: enhance syscall stub to work in per-domain mapping Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 15:11   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A70991902000078001A3C16@suse.com>
2018-01-30 16:50     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/12] x86: allocate per-vcpu stacks for interrupt entries Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 15:40   ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-09 12:35     ` Juergen Gross
2018-02-13  9:10       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A70A01402000078001A3C30@suse.com>
2018-01-30 17:12     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-31 10:18       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/12] x86: modify interrupt handlers to support stack switching Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 16:07   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A70A63D02000078001A3C7C@suse.com>
2018-01-30 17:19     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-31 10:36       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <5A71AA4202000078001A3F56@suse.com>
2018-02-02 15:42         ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 12:32 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/12] x86: activate per-vcpu stacks in case of xpti Juergen Gross
2018-01-30 16:33   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5A70AC7F02000078001A3CA6@suse.com>
2018-01-30 17:33     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-31 10:40       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/12] xen/x86: use per-vcpu stacks for 64 bit pv domains Jan Beulich
     [not found] ` <5A65EC0A02000078001A1118@suse.com>
2018-01-22 14:18   ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2018-01-22 14:22     ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]     ` <5A6601D302000078001A1230@suse.com>
2018-01-22 14:38       ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 14:48         ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]         ` <5A6607DB02000078001A127B@suse.com>
2018-01-22 15:00           ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 16:51             ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 18:39               ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 18:48                 ` George Dunlap
2018-01-22 19:02                   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-23  8:36                     ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-23 11:23                       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-23 11:06                     ` George Dunlap
2018-01-23  6:34                 ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23  7:21                   ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23  8:53                   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <5A67061F02000078001A1669@suse.com>
2018-01-23  9:24                     ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23  9:31                       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                       ` <5A670F0E02000078001A16C9@suse.com>
2018-01-23 10:10                         ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23 11:45                           ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-23 13:31                             ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23 13:24                 ` Dario Faggioli
2018-01-23 16:45                 ` George Dunlap
2018-01-23 16:56                   ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23 17:33                     ` George Dunlap
2018-01-24  7:37                       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]             ` <5A6624A602000078001A1375@suse.com>
2018-01-23  5:50               ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-23  8:40                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                 ` <5A67030F02000078001A164B@suse.com>
2018-01-23  9:45                   ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-22 21:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-23  6:38   ` Juergen Gross

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