From: Wei Liu <liuw@liuw.name>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libxl: enabling upstream qemu as pure pv backend.
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:49:16 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307612957.31235.53.camel@limbo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1307609530.775.776.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 09:52 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 08:07 +0100, Wei Liu wrote:
> > The dm creating logic is as followed:
> >
> > if hvm
> > libxl__create_device_model
> > if stubdom
> > libxl__create_stubdom -> libxl__create_xenpv_qemu
> > |
> > --> libxl__create_device_model
> > else
> > spawn and exec qemu
> > else /* pv */
> > if need_qemu
> > libxl__create_xenpv_qemu
> > |
> > --> libxl__create_device_model
> >
> > *
> > I think adding device_model_args_{pv,fv} is a good idea.
>
> Agreed although you will also need _old and _new variants, making four
> functions. It's not clear how much in common they will have but please
> consider making pv vs fv a parameter to the _old/_new functions i.e. try
> and keep it down to just 2 functions (of course if they have nothing in
> common 4 functions will be fine).
>
Well, I'm referring to configuration variables for config file but not
functions in libxl...
These config variables become parameters of
libxl__build_device_model_args_{old,new}. (see patch)
However, pv/fv configuration variables are related to guest machine type
rather than qemu type. It is possible to add two more variables
device_model_args_{old,new} and get them related to qemu type, if
necessary.
However, so many configuration variables, five in total -- pv/fv/old/new
plus the original one, may confuse users. Too bad.
> > *
> > Since libxl__create_stubdom receives a dm_info structure, I think it is
> > ok for libxl__create_xenpv_qemu to receive one, too. This dm_info is key
> > structure to indicate xenpv qemu's type (traditional or upstream). But
> > once we enter libxl__create_xenpv_qemu, we lost knowledge of whether we
> > are creating a stubdom/qemu-xen or upstream qemu. So the caller should
> > be responsible for filling in a new dm_info for
> > libxl__create_xenpv_qemu.
>
> I'm wondering if all these functions shouldn't take a
> libxl_domain_config (which contains libxl_dm_info), after all there is
> no fundamental reason that creating the DM should't be at liberty to
> base it's behaviour on any aspect of the domains cfg.
>
I don't think so. DM creation has nothing to do with domain_config,
that's what I see in xl_cmdimpl.c:parse_config_data.
> >
> > *
> > vfb is derive from d_config (libxl_domain_config), which is a domain
> > property.
>
> Aha, an example of what I meant above, convenient ;-)
>
> > Currently, the existing code either use
> > libxl__vfb_and_vkb_from_device_model_info (if we are using stubdom) or
> > direct parsing (if we are using xenpv_qemu). Though the code is
> > redundent, the parsing is just the same essentially. What's the point of
> > moving vnc and sdl out of vfb?
>
> I'm not entirely sure. In a world with multiple VFBs (note: we don't
> currently support this)you could, I suppose have one on SDL and one on
> VNC. I suppose you might even want a single VFB exposed over both, that
> doesn't seem unreasonable (maybe this works today?)
>
Currently I have no idea how to do this.
> > *
> > Configure two DMs for one domain? Haven't thought about that. I doubt
> > that if it really necessary if we are moving towards a unified DM --
> > upstream qemu -- wouldn't that be sufficient in the long run?
>
> There will always be a need for at least two DMs, that is in the stubdom
> case (one DM in a stubdom, the other in dom0), however they should both
> be the same version of the DM, i.e. both upstream or both traditional.
>
I understand. DM in stubdom is statically packed in ioemu-stubdom.gz.
Upstream qemu is not supported by now (AFAIK). In this case, we are not
configuring two DMs, just one.
> In the future it's also possible that we would want to have the option
> of multiple qemu's, e.g. one per qdisk backend, for isolation and
> robustness.
> > *
> > To my understanding, stubdom is minios+qemu-xen. If I (the user) am
> > using stubdom and specify device model args, these args should go to
> > xenpv qemu, not xenfv in stubdom, right?
>
> The device_model_args are basically a trap door to allow users to do
> things which libxl didn't anticipate (i.e. as a stopgap until libxl can
> be updated with that feature). As such extra args could be needed for
> either DM. The distinction only really matters in the stubdom case.
>
Can you tell me how to pass parameters to the qemu running inside
stubdom? What I see in the code is that libxl passes args to the xenpv
qemu running in dom0 and leave qemu running inside stubdom untouched.
> > What I see in the code is that
> > we only need a few args (e.g. disks, vifs) to start stubdom. The
> > internal setup to connect to domU is done within stubdom.
> >
> > To summarize, I give a second prototype of my patch. Please review.
> >
> > libxl__build_xenpv_qemu_args handles common options to both xenpv qemu
> > and upstream qemu, while libxl__build_device_model_args distinguish
> > between old and new qemu's and build args respectively.
> >
> > libxl__create_xenpv_qemu is not allocating a struct
> > libxl_device_model_info anymore, because at this point, it doesn't know
> > if it is building a stubdom/qemu-xen (traditional type) or upstream
> > qemu. The allocating and filling becomes caller's responsibility.
> >
> > This patch has been tested with pv guest creating, fv guest creating and
> > fv-stubdom guest creating.
> >
> > -----------8<------------------
> [...]
> > @@ -506,8 +507,15 @@ static int do_domain_create(libxl__gc *gc, libxl_domain_config *d_config,
> > libxl__device_console_add(gc, domid, &console, &state);
> > libxl_device_console_destroy(&console);
> >
> > + /* only copy those useful configs */
> > + memset((void*)&xenpv_dm_info, 0x00, sizeof(libxl_device_model_info));
> > + xenpv_dm_info.device_model_version =
> > + d_config->dm_info.device_model_version;
> > + xenpv_dm_info.type = d_config->dm_info.type;
> > + xenpv_dm_info.device_model = d_config->dm_info.device_model;
> > if (need_qemu)
> > - libxl__create_xenpv_qemu(gc, domid, d_config->vfbs, &dm_starting);
> > + libxl__create_xenpv_qemu(gc, domid, &xenpv_dm_info,
> > + d_config->vfbs, &dm_starting);
> > }
> >
> > if (dm_starting) {
>
> This is what I was thinking of when I said you might be able to just
> pass the same dm_info to both -- since you only ever copy fields
> verbatim, and libxl__create_xenpv_qemu (presumably) only looks at that
> subset of fields why not just pass the whole lot through.
>
I'm afraid this kind of verbatim copying is necessary. Luckily, this
kind of operation is hidden from the user.
In the original code, libxl__create_xenpv_qemu allocates its own
dm_info, which is zero-out with libxl__build_xenpv_qemu_args before
using. Because libxl__create_xenpv_qemu eventually calls
libxl__create_device_model. If there are rubbish contents in dm_info,
the creation is likely to fail.
> The rest looked ok, although I didn't review in detail yet.
>
> Ian.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-09 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-08 3:19 [PATCH] libxl: enabling upstream qemu as pure pv backend Wei Liu
2011-06-08 8:55 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 9:53 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-08 12:23 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 10:20 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-08 12:24 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 11:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-08 14:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-06-08 11:33 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-08 12:27 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 13:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-08 13:13 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 13:43 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-08 13:51 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 15:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-08 15:53 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-08 16:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-09 7:07 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-09 8:52 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-09 9:49 ` Wei Liu [this message]
2011-06-09 10:15 ` Ian Campbell
2011-06-09 10:47 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-09 15:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-09 15:49 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-09 16:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-06-10 5:47 ` Wei Liu
2011-06-10 11:05 ` Stefano Stabellini
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2011-07-16 6:06 Wei Liu
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