From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@iki.fi>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"Keir (Xen.org)" <keir@xen.org>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
"Tim (Xen.org)" <tim@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? xl domain numa memory allocation vs xm/xend
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:59:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1327046368.21391.29.camel@dagon.hellion.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120119211430.GT12984@reaktio.net>
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 21:14 +0000, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:29:22PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody got anything else? I'm sure I've missed stuff. Are there any
> > must haves e.g. in the paging/sharing spaces?
> >
>
> Something that I just remembered:
> http://wiki.xen.org/xenwiki/Xen4.1
>
> "NUMA-aware memory allocation for VMs. xl in Xen 4.1 will allocate
> equal amount of memory from every NUMA node for the VM. xm/xend
> allocates all the memory from the same NUMA node."
I'm not that familiar with the NUMA support but my understanding was
that memory was allocated by libxc/the-hypervisor and not by the
toolstack and that the default was to allocate from the same numa nodes
as domains the processor's were pinned to i.e. if you pin the processors
appropriately the Right Thing just happens. Do you believe this is not
the case and/or not working right with xl?
CCing Juergen since he added the cpupool support and in particular the
cpupool-numa-split option so I'm hoping he knows something about NUMA
more generally.
> Is this something that should be looked at?
Probably, but is anyone doing so?
> Should the numa memory allocation be an option so it can be controlled
> per domain?
What options did xm provide in this regard?
Does xl's cpupool (with the cpupool-numa-split option) server the same
purpose?
> The default libxl behaviour might cause unexpected performance issues
> on multi-socket systems?
I'm not convinced libxl is behaving any different to xend but perhaps
someone can show me the error of my ways.
Ian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-20 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-04 16:29 RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? Ian Campbell
2012-01-04 16:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-04 16:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-16 13:42 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-04 16:55 ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-16 13:39 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-16 14:48 ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-16 15:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-04 17:25 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-04 17:36 ` George Dunlap
2012-01-04 18:20 ` Tim Deegan
2012-01-05 10:39 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-06 15:24 ` RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? Nested Paging for Intel Nested Virt Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-04 19:21 ` RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? Wei Huang
2012-01-04 19:43 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-04 19:57 ` Wei Huang
2012-01-05 7:27 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-06 15:37 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-06 19:08 ` Wei Huang
2012-02-06 17:57 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-02-13 17:52 ` Extracting ATI/AMD Radeon VBIOS ROM Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-05 13:19 ` Re : RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? David TECHER
2012-01-05 13:25 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-05 13:41 ` Re : " David TECHER
2012-01-05 16:18 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-16 13:28 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-16 14:39 ` Re : " David TECHER
2012-01-04 17:39 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-05 18:07 ` Driver domains and hotplug scripts, redux Ian Jackson
2012-01-06 12:01 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-09 10:08 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-09 12:26 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-09 17:39 ` Ian Jackson
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[not found] ` <20236.23822.715733.455559@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201101547540.3150@kaball-desktop>
[not found] ` <20236.24780.865152.458124@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201101619460.3150@kaball-desktop>
[not found] ` <20236.27158.706017.813195@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201101655390.3150@kaball-desktop>
[not found] ` <20236.28931.127139.752426@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
2012-01-11 11:50 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-11 12:17 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-11 14:26 ` Dave Scott
2012-01-12 16:50 ` Ian Jackson
2012-01-12 18:07 ` Dave Scott
2012-01-11 14:44 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-12 16:48 ` Ian Jackson
2012-01-16 17:52 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-16 17:58 ` Ian Jackson
2012-01-17 9:17 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-17 9:30 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-17 9:43 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-17 9:40 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-17 9:52 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-17 10:00 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-17 10:39 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-23 11:40 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-27 8:43 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-27 10:57 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-31 9:57 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-31 10:06 ` Tim Deegan
2012-01-31 13:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-31 13:51 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-31 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-31 20:02 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-17 9:22 ` Roger Pau Monné
2012-01-11 12:50 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-05 17:49 ` RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? Ian Jackson
2012-01-06 13:37 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-10 16:06 ` Ian Jackson
2012-01-16 11:55 ` George Dunlap
2012-01-19 21:14 ` RFC: Still TODO for 4.2? xl domain numa memory allocation vs xm/xend Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-20 7:59 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2012-01-20 8:15 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-20 9:01 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 9:47 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 11:56 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-23 9:59 ` Juergen Gross
2012-01-20 10:55 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 11:22 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 11:25 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 11:44 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 11:54 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 12:04 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 12:33 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 13:11 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 15:06 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:02 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 16:21 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:28 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:31 ` George Dunlap
2012-01-20 16:39 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:43 ` George Dunlap
2012-01-20 16:54 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 17:32 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-23 10:19 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-23 13:14 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-23 13:20 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:55 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 16:59 ` George Dunlap
2012-01-20 16:58 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 17:23 ` Ian Campbell
2012-01-20 17:28 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-01-20 11:26 ` Dario Faggioli
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