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From: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 10 v3] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 15:52:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1341582773.15708.42.camel@Abyss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1341580905.32747.41.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>


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On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 14:21 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: 
> > Ok, I see. What about something like the below:
> > 
> > "However, if the amount of free memory of two candidates is very
> > similar, we look at how many domains are assigned to each candidate, and
> > take the one that has fewer of them."
> 
> Looks good, thanks.
> 
Ok.

> Is it still "very similar" now that it is a total order or is it
> actually a strict equality now? (or an equality down to the precision of
> a float...)
> 
It is, at least according to me. In fact, if the normalized difference
between the amount of free memory of two candidates is 0.1 (i.e.,
candidates are "very similar") and the difference in number of domains
is -0.5 (one has half the domains the other does) we get
3*0.1-0.5=-0.2 ==> the number of domains is important. OTOH, a
normalized difference of 0.2 in the amount of free memory (i.e.,
candidates are no longer "very similar") is enough to prevent the same
difference in number of domains from subverting the sign of the
comparison.

It of course depends on how much details we want to go in in this kind
of documentation. Given there's no way neither an application developer
nor an user could change/affect the parameters controlling the
heuristics, I think what we have there is just fine.

Did I persuade you? :-P

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-04 16:17 [PATCH 00 of 10 v3] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 01 of 10 v3] libxl: add a new Array type to the IDL Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 02 of 10 v3] libxl, libxc: introduce libxl_get_numainfo() Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 10:35   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 03 of 10 v3] xl: add more NUMA information to `xl info -n' Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 11:37   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 12:00     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 12:15       ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 12:52         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 04 of 10 v3] libxl: rename libxl_cpumap to libxl_bitmap Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 10:39   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 05 of 10 v3] libxl: expand the libxl_bitmap API a bit Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 10:40   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 06 of 10 v3] libxl: introduce some node map helpers Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 07 of 10 v3] libxl: explicitly check for libmath in autoconf Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:44   ` Roger Pau Monne
2012-07-06 11:42   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 11:54     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 08 of 10 v3] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:41   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 10:55   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 13:03     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 13:21       ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 13:52         ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2012-07-06 13:54           ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 11:30   ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 13:00     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 13:05       ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 14:35         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 14:40           ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 16:27             ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 09 of 10 v3] libxl: have NUMA placement deal with cpupools Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 12:42   ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 13:10     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 13:27       ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 13:32         ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 13:42         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:16         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-04 16:18 ` [PATCH 10 of 10 v3] Some automatic NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 14:08   ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 14:26     ` George Dunlap
2012-07-06 14:37       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 11:16 ` [PATCH 00 of 10 v3] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 11:20   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 11:22     ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-06 13:05       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-06 12:19 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-08 18:32 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-09 14:32   ` Dario Faggioli

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