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From: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
To: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>
Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	Steven Smith <steven.smith@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
	George Dunlap <dunlapg@gmail.com>,
	Malte Schwarzkopf <malte.schwarzkopf@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: NUMA TODO-list for xen-devel
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 18:58:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1343840334.4958.45.camel@Solace> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A178E46B-25C1-4251-BB86-292B4CE3082D@recoil.org>


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On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 17:32 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2012, at 17:16, Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it> wrote:
> 
> >    - Inter-VM dependencies and communication issues. If a workload is
> >      made up of more than just a VM and they all share the same (NUMA)
> >      host, it might be best to have them sharing the nodes as much as
> >      possible, or perhaps do right the opposite, depending on the
> >      specific characteristics of he workload itself, and this might be
> >      considered during placement, memory migration and perhaps
> >      scheduling.
> > 
> >    - Benchmarking and performances evaluation in general. Meaning both
> >      agreeing on a (set of) relevant workload(s) and on how to extract
> >      meaningful performances data from there (and maybe how to do that
> >      automatically?).
> 
> I haven't tried out the latest Xen NUMA features yet, but we've been
> keeping track of the IPC benchmarks as we get newer machines here:
> 

> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/srg/netos/ipc-bench/results.html
> 
Wow... That's really cool. I'll definitely take a deep look at all these
data! I'm also adding the link to the wiki, if you're fine with that...

> Happy to share the raw data if you have cycles to figure out the best
> way to auto-place multiple VMs so they are near each other from a memory
> latency perspective.  
>
I don't have anything precise in mind yet, but we need to think about
this.

> We haven't run many macro-benchmarks though, so
> in practise it might not matter, so it would be nice to settle on a good
> set of benchmarks to determine that for sure.
> 
Yes, that's what we need. I'm open and available on trying to figure
this out anytime... I seem to recall you're going to be in SanDiego for
XenSummit, am I right? If yes, we can discuss this more there.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-01 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01 16:16 NUMA TODO-list for xen-devel Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:24 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:30 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-08-01 16:47   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:53     ` Andrew Cooper
2012-08-02  9:40   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 13:21     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:32 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2012-08-01 16:58   ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2012-08-02  0:04     ` Malte Schwarzkopf
2012-08-07 23:53       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02  1:04 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2012-08-07 22:56   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02  9:43 ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 13:34   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02 14:07     ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 16:36     ` George Dunlap
2012-08-03  9:23       ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03  9:48         ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 10:03           ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 22:40             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-03 11:00           ` George Dunlap
2012-08-03 22:34   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-06  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-06 16:28       ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-03 10:02 ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 11:26     ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 11:38       ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 13:14         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-03 13:52           ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 22:42   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-08  7:07     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-08  7:43   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-03 22:22 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-07 23:49   ` Dario Faggioli

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