What about a Fedora TestDay about Xen?

What about a Fedora TestDay about Xen?

[Dario Faggioli]

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Hi Lars, Hi everyone,

As there is some ongoing discussion on Xen TestDays, allow me to mention
that Fedora does TestDays as a part of their QA process for each
release. I'm quite a bit convinced that it could be worthwhile to (try
to) organize one of them with focus on Xen[*].

Below there are some information I collected from the Fedora Wiki...
Basically the purpose of this e-mail is to gather thoughts of the Xen
community about such a thing and, more important, some will to help a
bit with the organization! :-P

Here some basic links about the TestDays:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days

The last one is the current schedule, which is quite full. Also, there
already is a 'Virtualization' test day. However, I think it could still
be useful to have one dedicated to Xen.

What I was thinking was to file a ticket for it, requesting for the
(currently) available spot on 2012-09-27. If that does not work for
them, we could as for something near to the Virtualization test day,
like the day before or so (just as they are doing with the X Test Week).

The ticket proposing the Virtualization test day is this one:
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/303

So, as you see, there is very few to do right now. However, if they
accept it, there will be work to do, as per
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management, with the
challenging issues being, according to me, the following:
 - building a live-CD (not mandatory but good to have)
 - defining test cases
 - promoting the event properly

I can try to deal with the live-CD, and I guess I also can (maybe with
some help from Lars) try to promote it as much as possible, using all
our usual and unusual channels.

Where I could use some help from the whole Xen community is in defining
meaningful test cases for such an event. Here it is an example for last
year Virtualization test day:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day#News_tests_and_features
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day#Previous_test_cases

Apart from that, as one could expect, hanging around on an IRC channel
during the event would be very useful.

Let me know any thoughts you have. It would be great if you can do that
ASAP, before we run over of free slots. :-P

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

[*] Of course this is a different thing from the Xen TestDay we're
discussing in the other thread, and I really think both of them could be
useful, serving the very same purpose, although in different ways.

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Re: What about a Fedora TestDay about Xen?

[Lars Kurth]

Dario,

I am not sure whether we should angle for a Xen Fedora Test day this time round. 

We should first make sure that we have good presence at the Virtualization Test Day (we got a bit, but never as much as KVM) and try and do all the things we would for a Xen Test Day. That way, we get to practice and build up credibility for the next Fedora release where it probably does make sense to do our own test day. If we do a Xen Fedora Test Day and nobody turns up this can backfire badly

Does this make sense?

Regards
Lars

-----Original Message-----
From: Dario Faggioli [mailto:dario.faggioli@citrix.com] 
Sent: 02 August 2012 18:03
To: Lars Kurth
Cc: xen-devel; George Dunlap; Pasi Kärkkäinen
Subject: What about a Fedora TestDay about Xen?

Hi Lars, Hi everyone,

As there is some ongoing discussion on Xen TestDays, allow me to mention that Fedora does TestDays as a part of their QA process for each release. I'm quite a bit convinced that it could be worthwhile to (try
to) organize one of them with focus on Xen[*].

Below there are some information I collected from the Fedora Wiki...
Basically the purpose of this e-mail is to gather thoughts of the Xen community about such a thing and, more important, some will to help a bit with the organization! :-P

Here some basic links about the TestDays:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days

The last one is the current schedule, which is quite full. Also, there already is a 'Virtualization' test day. However, I think it could still be useful to have one dedicated to Xen.

What I was thinking was to file a ticket for it, requesting for the
(currently) available spot on 2012-09-27. If that does not work for them, we could as for something near to the Virtualization test day, like the day before or so (just as they are doing with the X Test Week).

The ticket proposing the Virtualization test day is this one:
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/303

So, as you see, there is very few to do right now. However, if they accept it, there will be work to do, as per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management, with the challenging issues being, according to me, the following:
 - building a live-CD (not mandatory but good to have)
 - defining test cases
 - promoting the event properly

I can try to deal with the live-CD, and I guess I also can (maybe with some help from Lars) try to promote it as much as possible, using all our usual and unusual channels.

Where I could use some help from the whole Xen community is in defining meaningful test cases for such an event. Here it is an example for last year Virtualization test day:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day#News_tests_and_features
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-12_Virtualization_Test_Day#Previous_test_cases

Apart from that, as one could expect, hanging around on an IRC channel during the event would be very useful.

Let me know any thoughts you have. It would be great if you can do that ASAP, before we run over of free slots. :-P

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

[*] Of course this is a different thing from the Xen TestDay we're discussing in the other thread, and I really think both of them could be useful, serving the very same purpose, although in different ways.

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Re: What about a Fedora TestDay about Xen?

[Dario Faggioli]

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On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 18:55 +0100, Lars Kurth wrote: 
> Dario,
> 
Hi,

> I am not sure whether we should angle for a Xen Fedora Test day this time round. 
> 
> We should first make sure that we have good presence at the Virtualization Test Day (we got a bit, but never as much as KVM) and try and do all the things we would for a Xen Test Day. That way, we get to practice and build up credibility for the next Fedora release where it probably does make sense to do our own test day. If we do a Xen Fedora Test Day and nobody turns up this can backfire badly
> 
Ok, I see your point, thanks for sharing your view.

> Does this make sense?
> 
I guess so, I'll keep an eye on the (Fedora) Virtualization TestDay and
see if we can have some Xen related testcases there.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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