From: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: About vcpu wakeup and runq tickling in credit
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:00:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353067252.5351.124.camel@Solace> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1353063234.5351.107.camel@Solace>
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2619 bytes --]
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 11:53 +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 12:18 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> > Maybe what we should do is do the wake-up based on who is likely to run
> > on the current cpu: i.e., if "current" is likely to be pre-empted, look
> > at idlers based on "current"'s mask; if "new" is likely to be put on the
> > queue, look at idlers based on "new"'s mask.
> >
> Ok, find attached the two (trivial) patches that I produced and am
> testing in these days. Unfortunately, early results shows that I/we
> might be missing something.
>
I'm just came to thinking that this approach, although more, say,
correct, could have a bad impact on caches and locality in general.
In fact, suppose a new vcpu N wakes up on pcpu #x where another vcpu C
is running, with prio(N)>prio(C).
What upstream does is asking to #x and to all the idlers that can
execute N to reschedule. Doing both is, I think, wrong, as there's the
chance of ending up with N being scheduled on #x and C being runnable
but not running (in #x's runqueue) even if there are idle cpus that
could run it, as they're not poked (as already and repeatedly said).
What the patches do, in this case (remember (prio(N)>prio(C)), is asking
#x and all the idlers that can run C to reschedule, the effect being
that N will likely run on #x, after a context switch, and C will run
somewhere else, after a migration, potentially wasting its cache-hotness
(it is running after all!).
It looks like we can do better... Something like the below:
+ if there are no idlers where N can run, ask #x and the idlers where
C can run to reschedule (exactly what the patches do, although, they
do that _unconditionally_), as there isn't anything else we can do
to try to make sure they both will run;
+ if *there*are* idlers where N can run, _do_not_ ask #x to reschedule
and only poke them to come pick N up. In fact, in this case, it is
not necessary to send C away for having both the vcpus ruunning, and
it seems better to have N experience the migration as, since it's
waking-up, it's more likely for him than for C to be cache-cold.
I'll run the benchmarks with this variant as soon as the one that I'm
running right now finish... In the meanwhile, any thoughts?
Thanks and Regards,
Dario
--
<<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://retis.sssup.it/people/faggioli
Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)
[-- Attachment #1.2: This is a digitally signed message part --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 126 bytes --]
_______________________________________________
Xen-devel mailing list
Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-16 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-23 13:34 About vcpu wakeup and runq tickling in credit Dario Faggioli
2012-10-23 15:16 ` George Dunlap
2012-10-24 16:48 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-15 12:10 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-15 12:18 ` George Dunlap
2012-11-15 15:50 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-16 10:53 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-16 12:00 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2012-11-16 15:44 ` George Dunlap
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1353067252.5351.124.camel@Solace \
--to=raistlin@linux.it \
--cc=JBeulich@suse.com \
--cc=david.vrabel@citrix.com \
--cc=george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com \
--cc=keir.xen@gmail.com \
--cc=xen-devel@lists.xen.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).