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From: Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>
To: Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>
Cc: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
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	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V6 1/11]  x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:25:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1363312.nixp29LUbv@chlor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F69DC68.6080200@citrix.com>

On Wednesday 21 March 2012, 13:49:28 Attilio Rao wrote:
> On 21/03/12 13:22, Stephan Diestelhorst wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 March 2012, 13:04:25 Attilio Rao wrote:
> >    
> >> On 21/03/12 10:20, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> >>      
> >>> From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge<jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
> >>>
> >>> Rather than outright replacing the entire spinlock implementation in
> >>> order to paravirtualize it, keep the ticket lock implementation but add
> >>> a couple of pvops hooks on the slow patch (long spin on lock, unlocking
> >>> a contended lock).
> >>>
> >>> Ticket locks have a number of nice properties, but they also have some
> >>> surprising behaviours in virtual environments.  They enforce a strict
> >>> FIFO ordering on cpus trying to take a lock; however, if the hypervisor
> >>> scheduler does not schedule the cpus in the correct order, the system can
> >>> waste a huge amount of time spinning until the next cpu can take the lock.
> >>>
> >>> (See Thomas Friebel's talk "Prevent Guests from Spinning Around"
> >>> http://www.xen.org/files/xensummitboston08/LHP.pdf  for more details.)
> >>>
> >>> To address this, we add two hooks:
> >>>    - __ticket_spin_lock which is called after the cpu has been
> >>>      spinning on the lock for a significant number of iterations but has
> >>>      failed to take the lock (presumably because the cpu holding the lock
> >>>      has been descheduled).  The lock_spinning pvop is expected to block
> >>>      the cpu until it has been kicked by the current lock holder.
> >>>    - __ticket_spin_unlock, which on releasing a contended lock
> >>>      (there are more cpus with tail tickets), it looks to see if the next
> >>>      cpu is blocked and wakes it if so.
> >>>
> >>> When compiled with CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCKS disabled, a set of stub
> >>> functions causes all the extra code to go away.
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> I've made some real world benchmarks based on this serie of patches
> >> applied on top of a vanilla Linux-3.3-rc6 (commit
> >> 4704fe65e55fb088fbcb1dc0b15ff7cc8bff3685), with both
> >> CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK=y and n, which means essentially 4 versions
> >> compared:
> >> * vanilla - CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK - patch
> >> * vanilla + CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK - patch
> >> * vanilla - CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK + patch
> >> * vanilla + CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK + patch
> >>
> >>      
> > [...]
> >    
> >> == Results
> >> This test points in the direction that Jeremy's rebased patches don't
> >> introduce a peformance penalty at all, but also that we could likely
> >> consider CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK option removal, or turn it on by
> >> default and suggest disabling just on very old CPUs (assuming a
> >> performance regression can be proven there).
> >>      
> > Very interesting results, in particular knowing that in the one guest
> > case things do not get (significantly) slower due to the added logic
> > and LOCKed RMW in the unlock path.
> >
> > AFAICR, the problem really became apparent when running multiple guests
> > time sharing the physical CPUs, i.e., two guests with eight vCPUs each
> > on an eight core machine.  Did you look at this setup with your tests?
> >
> >    
> 
> Please note that my tests are made on native Linux, without XEN involvement.
> 
> You maybe meant that the spinlock paravirtualization became generally 
> useful in the case you mentioned? (2 guests, 8vpcu + 8vcpu)?

Yes, that is what I meant.  Just to clarify why you do not see any
speed-ups, and were wondering why.  If the whole point of the exercise
was to see that there are no perforamnce regressions, fine.  In that
case I misunderstood.

Stephan
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 10:20 [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC V6 1/11] x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst [this message]
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 17:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 3/11] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 4/11] xen: defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 5/11] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 6/11] xen/pvticketlocks: add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 7/11] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 8/11] x86/pvticketlock: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 9/11] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 10/11] xen/pvticketlock: allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 11/11] xen: enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2012-03-26 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Avi Kivity
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:09     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-28 18:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29  9:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29 18:03           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:48                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:56                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  9:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 22:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:18     ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-31  0:08         ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  4:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:09       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-16 15:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-04-17  2:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-01 13:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-05  9:15         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  4:36     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-11  1:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-31  0:51   ` Raghavendra K T

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