NUMA Node distance on Xen

NUMA Node distance on Xen

[Shuoling Deng]

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hi!
i am working on the NUMA awareness scheduling on Xen.
But there is a question that i don't know how to get node distance on Xen.

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DengShuoling
Computer Science and Technology Department
Xi'an JiaoTong University, Xi'an, Shaanxi, P.R. China

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Re: NUMA Node distance on Xen

[Jan Beulich]

>>> On 12.06.13 at 12:48, Shuoling Deng <mr.dengshuoling@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am working on the NUMA awareness scheduling on Xen.
> But there is a question that i don't know how to get node distance on Xen.

You apparently didn't even try the most trivial thing: grep the
sources for "node_distance".

Jan

Re: NUMA Node distance on Xen

[Shuoling Deng]

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Umm, I used to execute "xm info -n", but it doesn't display the numa -
distance on my 3.0.13-0.27-xen.
But in the source code 4.2, i could see the "node_to_node_distance", so i
am doubt that my version is too low.
Anyway, i will try to upgrade my version and try to find out the answer.
by the way, is there some way to find the source-code of my 3.0.13 version
of Xen?
I think i could grep the "node_to_node_distance"  to find more details in
my 3.0.13.

i am very sorry as a freshman for issue this question.
thanks very much.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:

> >>> On 12.06.13 at 12:48, Shuoling Deng <mr.dengshuoling@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i am working on the NUMA awareness scheduling on Xen.
> > But there is a question that i don't know how to get node distance on
> Xen.
>
> You apparently didn't even try the most trivial thing: grep the
> sources for "node_distance".
>
> Jan
>
>


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Xi'an JiaoTong University, Xi'an, Shaanxi, P.R. China

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Re: NUMA Node distance on Xen

[Dario Faggioli]

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On mer, 2013-06-12 at 22:14 +0800, Shuoling Deng wrote:
> Umm, I used to execute "xm info -n", but it doesn't display the numa -
> distance on my 3.0.13-0.27-xen.
>
Wow! I never had the chance to see what `xm info -n' does, while I know
that very well for `xl info -n'. Of course, you can use the latter if
you settle on a version of Xen that includes xl and libxl, which is
highly recommended! :-P

No, seriously, is there any particular reason why you want to use
3.0.13 ? Doing any work (i.e., modifying the sources) on that version is
going to be quite pointless --at least for us here in this ML-- and you
wiill hardly receive any support and advice, since development
concentrates on the current status of the code, not on how it looked
like _years_ ago...

> But in the source code 4.2, i could see the "node_to_node_distance",
> so i am doubt that my version is too low.
>
Yes, it is, indeed, too old. If you're interested in doing development,
you really should consider moving on to dealing with the code hosted in
our source code repositories

http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Repositories

If it's an "user thing", or you just want to try with something that
does not include cloning a git repo, I'd still recommending the newest
version of Xen that you can get, so either 4.2, or even one of the
4.3-rc-s.

> Anyway, i will try to upgrade my version and try to find out the
> answer.
>
Please. :-)

> by the way, is there some way to find the source-code of my 3.0.13
> version of Xen? 
> I think i could grep the "node_to_node_distance"  to find more details
> in my 3.0.13. 
> 
I bet they are somewhere, but I've no idea where to point you to. As I
already said, if that is possible for you, I'd really like to point you
to the sources of something much more current! :-)

http://xenproject.org/developers/teams/hypervisor.html
http://www.xenproject.org/downloads/xen-archives.html

> i am very sorry as a freshman for issue this question.
>
Yeah, well, no big deal, although you may want to have a look at this
page, explaining how to ask questions in a way better suited for this
forum: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Asking_Xen_Devel_Questions

Regarding the root of your question, here's something:
http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git&a=search&h=refs%2Fheads%2Fstaging&st=grep&s=node_distance

This, for instance, tells you that there is a function, called
__node_distance(), that you can use, provided you include asm-x86/numa.h
(not directly, though... Probably via just including numa.h, IIRC).

That very function is defined in the file xen/arch/x86/srat.c, line 465,
so go there to see how it is implemented. For now, the only place where
that function is actually used in Xen seems to be xen/common/sysctl.c,
line 304, for the purpose of reporting NUMA distances information up to
the various toolstack layers, but it should be pretty easy to call and
use it elsewhere, if you need it.

Hope this helps.

Oh, this all above, of course, holds true for the very latest version of
the Xen source code (the one in the git repo). If you can't get to use
this version, then you'll have to crawl in the sources of whichever
version you want to use without much help from us/me. :-*

Best Regards,
Dario

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Re: NUMA Node distance on Xen

[Dario Faggioli]

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On mer, 2013-06-12 at 18:48 +0800, Shuoling Deng wrote:
> hi!
>
Hi,

> i am working on the NUMA awareness scheduling on Xen.
>
Mmm... That sound interesting. Do you mind sharing with us what it that
you mean when saying "I am working on NUMA aware scheduling" ?

That is something we are also trying to improve, so I'm very curious to
hear what you're up to. :-)

For more info on how we're trying to improve Xen's NUMA support, have a
look here:

 http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_NUMA_Roadmap

> But there is a question that i don't know how to get node distance on
> Xen.
> 
I'll reply to this in the other e-mail, down in this same thread.

Regards,
Dario

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