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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Marcus Granado <Marcus.Granado@eu.citrix.com>,
	Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Li Yechen <lccycc123@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Justin Weaver <jtweaver@hawaii.edu>, Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>,
	Elena Ufimtseva <ufimtseva@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/16] xen: sched: use soft-affinity instead of domain's node-affinity
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:39:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1384475989.16918.93.camel@Solace> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5284EC99.3070607@eu.citrix.com>


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On gio, 2013-11-14 at 15:30 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 13/11/13 19:12, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > [..]
> > The high level description of NUMA placement and scheduling in
> > docs/misc/xl-numa-placement.markdown is being updated too, to match
> > the new architecture.
> >
> > signed-off-by: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
> 
> Reviewed-by: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
> 
Cool, thanks.

> Just a few things to note below...
> 
Ok.

> > diff --git a/xen/common/domain.c b/xen/common/domain.c
> > @@ -411,8 +411,6 @@ void domain_update_node_affinity(struct domain *d)
> >                   node_set(node, d->node_affinity);
> >       }
> >   
> > -    sched_set_node_affinity(d, &d->node_affinity);
> > -
> >       spin_unlock(&d->node_affinity_lock);
> 
> At this point, the only thing inside the spinlock is contingent on 
> d->auto_node_affinity.
> 
Mmm... Sorry, but I'm not geting what you mean here. :-(

> > diff --git a/xen/common/sched_credit.c b/xen/common/sched_credit.c
> > -static inline int __vcpu_has_node_affinity(const struct vcpu *vc,
> > +static inline int __vcpu_has_soft_affinity(const struct vcpu *vc,
> >                                              const cpumask_t *mask)
> >   {
> > -    const struct domain *d = vc->domain;
> > -    const struct csched_dom *sdom = CSCHED_DOM(d);
> > -
> > -    if ( d->auto_node_affinity
> > -         || cpumask_full(sdom->node_affinity_cpumask)
> > -         || !cpumask_intersects(sdom->node_affinity_cpumask, mask) )
> > +    if ( cpumask_full(vc->cpu_soft_affinity)
> > +         || !cpumask_intersects(vc->cpu_soft_affinity, mask) )
> >           return 0;
> 
> At this point we've lost a way to make this check potentially much 
> faster (being able to check auto_node_affinity).
>
Right.

> This isn't a super-hot 
> path but it does happen fairly frequently -- 
>
Quite frequently indeed.

> will the "cpumask_full()" 
> check take a significant amount of time on, say, a 4096-core system?  If 
> so, we might think about "caching" the results of cpumask_full() at some 
> point.
> 
Yes, I think cpumask_* operation could be heavy when the number of pcpus
is high. However, this is not really a problem introduced by this
series. Consider that the default behavior (for libxl and xl) is to go
through initial domain placement, which would set a node-affinity for
the domain explicitly, which means d->auto_node_affinity is false.

In fact, every domain that does not manually pin its vcpus at creation
time --which is what we want, because that way NUMA placement can do its
magic-- will have to go through the (cpumask_full || !cpumask_intrscts)
anyway. Basically, I'm saying that having d->auto_node_affinity there
may look like a speedup, but it really is only for a minority of cases.

So, yes, I think we should aim at optimizing this, but that is something
completely orthogonal to this series. That is to say: (a) we should do
it anyway, whether or not this series goes in; (b) for that same reason,
that shouldn't prevent this series from going in.

If you think this can be an issue for 4.4, I'm fine creating a bug for
it and putting it among the blockers. At that point, I'll start looking
for a solution, and will commit to post a fix ASAP, but again, that's
pretty independent from this very series, at least AFAICT.

Then, the fact that you provided your Reviewed-by above probably means
that you are aware and ok with this all, but I felt like it was worth
pointing it out anyway. :-)

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-15  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 19:10 [PATCH v2 00/16] Implement vcpu soft affinity for credit1 Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] xl: match output of vcpu-list with pinning syntax Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 10:50   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 11:11     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 11:14       ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 11:13     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 12:44     ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 14:19   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] xl: allow for node-wise specification of vcpu pinning Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 11:02   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 14:24   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 14:37     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] xl: implement and enable dryrun mode for `xl vcpu-pin' Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] xl: test script for the cpumap parser (for vCPU pinning) Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] xen: fix leaking of v->cpu_affinity_saved Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 11:11   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 11:58     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 14:25   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-13 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] xen: sched: make space for cpu_soft_affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:03   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:14     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-15 10:07       ` George Dunlap
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] xen: sched: rename v->cpu_affinity into v->cpu_hard_affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 14:17   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] xen: derive NUMA node affinity from hard and soft CPU affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:21   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:30     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-15 10:52       ` George Dunlap
2013-11-15 14:17         ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] xen: sched: DOMCTL_*vcpuaffinity works with hard and soft affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 14:42   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:21     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] xen: sched: use soft-affinity instead of domain's node-affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:30   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-15  0:39     ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2013-11-15 11:23       ` George Dunlap
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] libxc: get and set soft and hard affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 14:58   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 16:18     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:38   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:41     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] libxl: get and set soft affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:16   ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:11   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 15:55     ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:25       ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-15  5:13         ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-15 12:02         ` George Dunlap
2013-11-15 17:29           ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-15  3:45     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] xl: show soft affinity in `xl vcpu-list' Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:12   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-13 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] xl: enable setting soft affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] xl: enable for specifying node-affinity in the config file Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:14   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 16:12     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-13 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] libxl: automatic NUMA placement affects soft affinity Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 15:17   ` Ian Jackson
2013-11-14 16:11     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 16:03   ` George Dunlap
2013-11-14 16:48     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-14 17:49       ` George Dunlap

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