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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas.lengyel@zentific.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andres@lagarcavilla.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Tamas K Lengyel <tklengyel@sec.in.tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.5 v6 10/17] xen/arm: p2m type definitions and changes
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:27:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1410874037.18008.2.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErYnsjezKVyTAM9PgRTQSD86SBAg3=+LrHsT0gCiM8CbF5TEw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:49 +0200, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Ian Campbell
> <ian.campbell@citrix.com> wrote:
>         On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 16:02 +0200, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>         > Define p2m_access_t in ARM and add necessary changes for
>         page table
>         > construction routines to pass the default access
>         information. Also,
>         > define the Radix tree that will hold access permission
>         settings as
>         > the PTE's don't have enough software programmable bits
>         available.
>         
>         So my main concern here is the overhead for non-xenaccess
>         users. I think
>         it amounts to a few extra fields in the p2m_domain struct
>         which I can
>         see here and presumably some NULL vs. non-NULL type checks
>         which I guess
>         we will get to later. The important thing is that the fast
>         paths for the
>         common case don't get a lot of extra overhead.
>         
>         WRT the xenaccess performance did you consider any options
>         other than a
>         radix tree (which seems quite expensive to me)? e.g. perhaps
>         allocating
>         (only when needed) as second page for each real T page as a
>         shadow/extended region? Perhaps pointed to by a filed in the
>         real PT
>         struct page_info. I'm sure there are other possible ideas too.
>         
>         Ian,
> 
> 
> Those would all be possible solutions. I used the Radix tree
> implementation already in Xen as a matter of convenience and because
> it has an acceptable overhead. I certainly don't oppose further
> optimizing this code, I'm just not sure if it needs to happen now,
> provided feature freeze is rapidly approaching. The main concern
> should be impact on non-xenaccess code-paths, which I agree are a
> showstopper of any feature like this. If you say it can't be merged
> unless the xenaccess code-path is also optimized I'm afraid this
> series will be postponed till 4.6 as I won't have the time to test out
> which approach puts the least overhead on the system under what
> usage-scenarios etc in this timeframe.

WRT merging I'm only concerned about the impact on non-xenaccess uses,
the stuff about the xenaccess-on case was just idle wondering, sorry for
not making that clear.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-16 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-15 14:02 [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/17] Mem_event and mem_access for ARM Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 01/17] xen: Relocate mem_access and mem_event into common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 02/17] xen: Relocate p2m_mem_access_resume to mem_access common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 03/17] xen: Relocate struct npfec definition into common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 04/17] xen: Relocate mem_event_op domctl and access_op memop " Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 05/17] x86/p2m: Typo fix for spelling ambiguous Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 06/17] xen/mem_event: Clean out superfluous white-spaces Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 07/17] xen/mem_event: Relax error condition on debug builds Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 08/17] xen/mem_event: Abstract architecture specific sanity checks Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 09/17] xen/mem_access: Abstract architecture specific sanity check Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 10/17] xen/arm: p2m type definitions and changes Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:35   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  8:49     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-16 13:27       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-09-16 20:38         ` Julien Grall
2014-09-16 21:52           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 11/17] xen/arm: Add set access required domctl Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:37   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  8:37     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:38   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  8:33     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-16 13:25       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 12/17] xen/arm: Implement domain_get_maximum_gpfn Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:39   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  8:02     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-16 16:44       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16 17:09         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 13/17] xen/arm: Data abort exception (R/W) mem_events Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:53   ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]     ` <CAErYnshu0vJJMxWwu4eo2MZf=q_g2H123p6VUk_4a9f12vYLjg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-16 10:07       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-16 16:50         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16 17:08           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-18 18:54   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-18 20:09     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-19  9:05       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-22  9:11         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 17:18           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 14/17] xen/arm: Instruction prefetch abort (X) mem_event handling Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-18 18:59   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-18 20:12     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 15/17] xen/arm: Enable the compilation of mem_access and mem_event on ARM Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 16/17] tools/libxc: Allocate magic page for mem access " Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 14:02 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 17/17] tools/tests: Enable xen-access " Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-18 19:02   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 18:48     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-23 12:18       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-01 17:32         ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)

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