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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: ian.campbell@citrix.com, xisisu@gmail.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	lu@cse.wustl.edu, ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, ptxlinh@gmail.com,
	xumengpanda@gmail.com, Meng Xu <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>,
	JBeulich@suse.com, chaowang@wustl.edu, lichong659@gmail.com,
	dgolomb@seas.upenn.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] xen: add real time scheduler rtds
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:26:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1411406788.4116.26.camel@Solace.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140919164422.GA9619@laptop.dumpdata.com>


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On ven, 2014-09-19 at 12:44 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:08:45PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:

> > deadline, and then address the things I'm bringing up here?  Or would it be
> > better to wait until all the issues are sorted and then check it in (even if
> > it's after the deadline)?
> 
> We can check it in after the deadline - and have those issues resolved.
> 
FWIW, I think the series looks good now, and in fact I sent in my
Reviewed-by for all of it.

> I am basing this on the assumption that:
>  - The risks of regressions to the rest of schedulers is nill (as this is all
>    new codepaths (as this is all
>  - The risks of regressions to the rest of the code-base is nill (as this is all
>    new).
>  - The resolution of the 'couple of things' are not going to lead to more
>    'couple of things' and lead to re-design.
>
This is all true, IMO.

> The common code that is touched does not look scary to me. And both of the
> scheduler maintainers -  you and Dariof are OK with the design and the patchset
> (minus the 'couple of things').
> 
Exactly.

> Are we aim to have this be experimental for Xen 4.5 or do we want this
> to be on the 'stable' ?
>
Not sure. What I'm sure about is that
1) the interface needs to change a bit, to include support for the
   per-vcpu parameters setting (although, that can happen in a
   backward compatible way, i.e., not touching or altering neither the
   look nor the semantic or the interface we'll be checking in if we
   take v4)
2) there is _a_lot_ to gain, from a performance point of view, and Meng
   already agreed on continuing working toward that, after 4.5

Having it in is, IMO, important, especially for the new
embedded/mobile/automotive uses of Xen we're seeing in these days (in
fact, I think GlobalLogic is using RT-Xen already, so the upstreaming of
this scheduler would be quite useful at least to them [correct me if I'm
wrong]).

However, given 2 above, if we mark it as stable, we risk that people
(mostly people not yet involved into Xen development and not on this
mailing list) would try it, run into non-optimal performance, and get
upset/angry. For that reason, I think I'd go for 'experimental for 4.5'.

Regards,
Dario

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-14 21:37 Introduce rtds real-time scheduler for Xen Meng Xu
2014-09-14 21:37 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] xen: add real time scheduler rtds Meng Xu
2014-09-15 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-16  8:42   ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-16  8:52     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-16  8:59       ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-16 16:38       ` Meng Xu
2014-09-17  9:22         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-18 16:08   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-18 18:08     ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-19 13:11       ` Meng Xu
2014-09-22 17:11         ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-22 20:40           ` Meng Xu
2014-09-19  9:45     ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-19 16:44     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-22 17:26       ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2014-09-22 20:45         ` Meng Xu
2014-09-22 22:43         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-20 21:10     ` Meng Xu
2014-09-23 10:47       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-14 21:37 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] libxc: add rtds scheduler Meng Xu
2014-09-18 16:15   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-14 21:37 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] libxl: " Meng Xu
2014-09-15 22:07   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  1:11     ` Meng Xu
2014-09-16  1:49       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  3:32         ` Meng Xu
2014-09-16  7:27           ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-16 16:54             ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-17 10:19               ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-16  8:04   ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-16 16:56     ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-18 16:24   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-18 17:19     ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-14 21:37 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] xl: introduce " Meng Xu
2014-09-15 22:18   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  7:49   ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-18 16:35   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-16  7:43 ` Introduce rtds real-time scheduler for Xen Dario Faggioli
2014-09-17 14:15 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-09-17 14:33   ` Meng Xu
2014-09-18 16:00   ` Meng Xu
2014-09-23 13:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 20:59   ` Meng Xu
2014-09-24 21:14     ` Wei Liu
2014-09-25  7:39       ` Ian Campbell

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