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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-xen-4.5] tools/mkrpm: improve version.release handling
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:03:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1415099037.11486.25.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLBxZbm5sXPKM7312rjRojdhr9e8W5qGKuGjjH25_zoG1g+rg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 11:00 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, George Dunlap wrote:
> >
> >> A number based on the time you happened to create the RPM, not based
> >> on something intrinsic about the content of the RPM; that just seems
> >> kind of hacky to me.  It happens to work well for your common
> >> workflow, but you can certainly imagine other workflows or other
> >> situations where you'd have to more manually override things anyway
> >> (for instance, doing bisections, or comparing functionality in
> >> different releases).  It seems like rather than having to remember
> >> when you can skip the manual override bits, and when you can't, it
> >> would be better to just use them all the time.
> >
> > George, the release number is and was never meant to describe the
> > content of a package. It just means "its different". And it will even
> > work for bisect because the package is always "newer", even if the
> > content is different.
> 
> Not if you end up going to a previously built package for some reason.
> 
> I can see how this makes more sense if you do have an independent
> package installed for every branch; but most people are not going to
> do that.
> 
> Anyway, if I were a maintainer, I might decide to accept it, even
> though I didn't like it, on the grounds that it doesn't do much harm
> and somebody finds it useful.
> 
> Since I'm not a maintainer, I'm free to be opinionated. :-)

I don't think any of the formal maintainers of this code use RPM[0], and
you are the original author of the tool... So I'm afraid I think you
might have a more relevant opinion than you might like.

Ian.

[0] At least half happen to be Debian Maintainers...

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-04 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-07 15:01 [PATCH for-xen-4.5] tools/mkrpm: improve version.release handling Olaf Hering
2014-10-07 15:03 ` Olaf Hering
2014-10-29  8:17 ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-03 11:00   ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 14:16 ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 14:19   ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 14:24   ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-03 14:29     ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-03 14:47       ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-04 10:11         ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-04 10:16           ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-03 14:32     ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 14:48       ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-04 10:37         ` George Dunlap
2014-11-04 10:46           ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-04 11:00             ` George Dunlap
2014-11-04 11:03               ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-11-07 13:30                 ` Olaf Hering
2014-11-07 14:52                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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